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Panther Nightwind

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:09 am


For those of us who aren't scared of bad feedback, let's all share our sites that need a little help in the design department.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:10 am


Panther Nightwind
Chisa
Panther Nightwind
yes, i can finally get into my falcon/wolfmaiden account ^_^ alright, so now i'm going to be doing some major updating on it. can you all look at it for me and give me some suggestions on how i might be able to make it better?? and sorry, i can't get rid of the pop-up ads due to it being angelfire >.< newayz here's the site i'm going to be renovating and making 'better'
I already know the 'entrance' needs to be redone....I can't do it right now though, so I apologize for the blue font in advance and somehow the picture thats supposed to be hyperlinked isn't >.<

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/wolfmaiden
Hrmm, first off, we need to get you off Angelfire sweatdrop I know that there are much better free hosting sites (with none/less ads), but I'm not sure where since I haven't used them in a long time... I'll take a look into it.

I have some suggestions for your site, but would you mind asking for suggestions in a new topic? Just so we can keep this topic on track, and don't start a discussion about your site where we're supposed to be talking about really bad sites

biggrin


heh sorry sweatdrop i got off topic myself >.< i meant to ask if it fell into the bad design category and would be grateful for tips. But yeah, i'll create a new topic....dunno what i'd call it though

Panther Nightwind


Panther Nightwind

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:13 am


Forewarning!! do not click on Pagan Creed, Wiccan Rede, Song of the Goddess, Before Time Was, and Magick? unless you wish to kill your eyes stressed I've just got to keep reminding myself I was 14 at the time
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:53 am


hm since it's been almost 5 years you've made the site, i don't know how much you've improved sweatdrop the current site is ok, it works and is very average looking. if you want to do something more specacular then you'll have to create your own graphics and do some spiffy coding to get it to look nice 3nodding

try using http://www.atspace.com/ it has no ads and has about 50mb of space if i'm not wrong.

Naiadrisa


Panther Nightwind

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:21 pm


Naiadrisa
hm since it's been almost 5 years you've made the site, i don't know how much you've improved sweatdrop the current site is ok, it works and is very average looking. if you want to do something more specacular then you'll have to create your own graphics and do some spiffy coding to get it to look nice 3nodding

try using http://www.atspace.com/ it has no ads and has about 50mb of space if i'm not wrong.


does it let me do my own coding??

edit: it won't let me create one, it says I already have one when I know for a fact I don't
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:33 am


Phew, finally got around to responding to this.

Okay, I have quite a few suggestions... web design is something I'm passionate about, so some of my criticisms might be a little harsh... please bear in mind that this is just my opinion from my experience, and its possible that I'm wrong. Here we go:

- defintely find a better host than Angelfire. I'll be making another post about web hosting and domain names, so hopefully we'll be able to find a nice ad free host for you (or at least some kind of ad bocking script)

Splash Page
- Black writing against that dark purple background is hard to read. Try a lighter background, or a very pale colour for that heading (although that might not suit the feel of the site as well...)

- Times New Roman is an evil, evil font. It's hard to read and not particularly aesthetically pleasing. Try Arial, Helectiva(sp?) or Verdana for sans-serif fonts, or Garamond or Georgia for serif fonts.

- to make the site look more professional, try changing the colour of the links. Just add this bit of code:

between the tags of the site, and change the hex values to suitable colours (that blue is very hard to read against the purple). You can also do cool effects like getting rid of the underlines, or making pictures appear when someone hovers over a link (hooray for CSS!)

- the menu might be better across the top under the heading, or down the left hand side of the page. That seems to be the convention for websites, so people look at those areas first.

Neopet page
- centered text is hard to read, because the eyes have to return to a different position each time after a line break. I'd try to stick with left aligned text, and save center aligning for headings.

- techincally, there isn't anything wrong with a starry background. But its used too often on badly designed sites, so it has a bit of stigma attached to it sweatdrop It also sort of distracts from the content. Solid colours , or very simple tiled images work well for backgrounds.

Wiccan Page
- same as the neopets page.

- I'm probably wrong, but do broomsticks really have much signifance to Wiccans? They remind me of Harry Potter, or of the typical fairy tale idea of a witch riding a broomstick, which probably isn't the feel you were going for...

- maybe try and get a better resolution picture of the hexagram?

- you weren't kidding about the Pagan Creed page >.<

Okay, you have a few basic design issues, but they are all the traps that most people fall into when they start designing web pages. And hey, you were only 14 at the time. Work on it a bit now that you're older (or start a new page?) and I'm sure you'll come up with something much better. xd

Chisa
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That Crazy Botvinnik

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:48 am


Good host - www.hostultra.com

Make this the bg on all pages - http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/wolfmaiden/starsbg.jpg
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:12 pm


Lord_Michieru
Make this the bg on all pages - http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/wolfmaiden/starsbg.jpg
No please don't! But do have a consistent bg throughout the site 3nodding Just maybe not a cliched stars one...

Chisa
Vice Captain


Grammar Freak

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:01 pm


A neat trick is you make the site within a big table (make sure you center it) and use a soild color for the cell backgrounds. Then you can feel free to use an otherwise busy background on the rest of the site. (A site where this works)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:59 pm


Thanks all, these are really helpful and yes chisa, I'm going to redo the whole thing wink as well as some of the things on the wiccan/pagan side of the site, they are supposed to be centered. That is how I found/got them back then, just can't remember from where so I can't give credit where due sweatdrop
Brooms do hold a significance (for me) it is a way to help 'banish/cleanse' 'evil' away and out of the home by 'sweeping' it out. As well as if you have the broom standing upright and you know for a fact that it won't fall over and it does, it has warned you of a visitor whether it they be good or bad. I'm currently, on my two days off, playing around with the site (off-line) and seeing how it all works. When I get it somewhat finished I'll post a new link for the new site and see about getting somemore feed back.


-- Panther

Panther Nightwind


Meh53

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:00 pm


I'm trying to make my own site, but I bite at that HTML code (Read siggy).
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:31 pm


Since I got to this thread late it seems you allready have quite a lot of suggestions. I think you should fisrt off get away from the tables gig and go full on into CSS. It is very easy and so much easier than tables. Go to A List Apart and look around at what you can do. It is amazing. I would also ditch the splash page, they are fun and all but really unnecessary if you plan your site out right.

Peace,

Blanco

PM me if you want help or advice.

BlancoMorir


Panther Nightwind

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:12 pm


Alrighty, after long dumb-assness and blondness, I have decided that when I redye my hair...instead of copper, it should be blonde. Yeah, I have to do all the updates off-line instead of being on-line like with angelfire sweatdrop but anywho's here the sites link and NO its not up and running yet...I work 4 days out of 7 and if I'm not lucky, that will change soon and instead of 3 days off I'll have just 1 if not 0 days off stressed

-- Panther

p.s. you'd think i'd have the site up by now blaugh


:edit: Up and running...with a few minor details that if someone was nice enough could help me with sweatdrop under tarot i'm trying to get the spread links on the left to link to their respective places/names on the right but not working xp anyways, here's the site link and feedback is always welcome..yes, i'm still updating and don't really have much time since i only have about 20 minutes left before i have to log off and go to bed in order to go to work for the next 4 days gonk

http://panther.atspace.com/ToC.htm
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:22 am


Update on my web-site. It's all up and running for all pages that I have. ^_^ I'm very happy and I've yet to get any bad feedback on it. Everyone likes it, even my friend who is Christian (and states that I'm still going to Hell xd gotta love her for it though) I also need help on creating a 'Back to Top' button/link that floats with the page as you scroll down so that for example. You are checking out the Magickal Terms page; and you are somewhere in the middle, you can jump back up to the top.

http://panther.atspace.com/

--Panther

p.s. I won't be able to actually recieve any feedback from anyone until next week and if someone/people could explain to me how I can impliment a 'newsboard' on my site I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks for everything ^_^ see ya'll next week.

Panther Nightwind

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