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Piotr Stoochat

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:51 am


Tommorow, I'm going to embark on an intense nutmeg trip. I'm going to take about 16 grams. I only weigh 130(at best), and I'm going to be tripping 5 balls. I mean nuts. Since I'm told it takes 4 hours to start working, I'm going to stay up all night tonight, and take the s**t at 8 in the morning(just to make the experience more dream-like). At 12:00 I'm going to be at a bass (subwoofer) contest, and I will be tripping balls. I've heard the s**t isn't worth doing, so I'm going to just go big on my first trip, since I won't be coming back to the s**t. I'll hit yall back up in a couple of days to tell ya how it went.

So, anybody else tripped nuts on nutmeg?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:05 pm


Well, it's a couple of days later, and I ended up eating about 13 grams of that s**t(I couldn't stomach that last nut). It was a gay a** trip, and I cannot reccomend it to anybody else with good concience. It was like a mix between DXM and Salvia, but nothing like the two done together.

Piotr Stoochat


Doctor War

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:22 pm


Ahh, nutmeg... how I love you so. What does it do? Well, the answer is "giant ******** wildcard."

Most commonly? It can mimic MDMA, cannabis, or LSD... 'n honestly, y'know how y'all can tell the difference between psilocybin and LSD? Yeah, well... when it actually does it, it's definately much more resemblant of LSD. Of course, what it does among this is signifigantly unpredictable...

In overdosage? It resembles a mixture of the flu, and diphenhydramine, in that whole "psychotic delerium" sense at least. In proper dosage? Its hangover resembles being stoned, with a gentle tolerance... but with a lot more euphoria. In utter randomness? Some of the rarer side effects have included a tendancy to mimic truly-worthless NMDA antagonists in psychoactive effect, and one of the funner ones, involved complete world-replacement with OEV with a mostly-sober headspace which best resembled having come down off a shitload of LSD. Clean LSD. That... was nice.

Preperation can change the effects wildly. The pure oil is fairly well tolerated on the street, actually, but seems to lengthen the 'hangover' in the effective dose, while decreasing its euphoriant effect. Raw nutmeg butter, expressed by boiling, seems to mostly lengthen and mute the experience, while randomizing it beyond its usual degree, and tossing in some quaint s**t - cannabinoid panic, antisocial comedowns from serotonin burnout, all the way to a pleasant, mild, 3-day trip without the hangover. Drawing it up in random high-fat milk substitutes on the market appears to heighten the empathogenic effect, though this needs moar testing, ageing it in ice cream appears to lengthen the "hangover" and increase its euphoria...

...and, eating it straight is closer to being a reliable crapshoot, but makes one deal with the taste and texture more than anything except beverage form.

If you're going to eat it straight, you'll want a polar, preferably acidic, chaser of suspension, combined with a non-polar chaser to cleanse the oils.

When it all comes down, though, there are three ways you should do it: Spice Liquor, NuttaButter, and raw oil extract.

Spice Liquor is simple - Steep 90g of powdered dried nutmeg into 600ml of ethyl alcohol - You're going to want something very high proof, for example everclear, or buy a big bottle of vodka and stick it in the freezer. The water will freeze into ice cubes which you can fish out leaving you with about 70% EtOH. Then dump in the spice, and heat it up on a hotplate very slowly, until it's bubbling ever so slightly. Obviously, you're boiling a volatile liquid, so NO OPEN FLAMES, JACKASSES. Do that for about five minutes, stirring constantly, then filter the solids out and chill your golden to brown coloured liquor.

NuttaButter is pretty similar. 90g of powdered dried nutmeg added to 375g melted butter. Get that s**t boiling hard, and add the nutmeg, stirring constantly so it doesn't boil over. Boil for about 20 minutes then strain out the dead spice - Butter's too viscous for a filter, I usually just use a sock, a t-shirt or anything cloth-based you can squeeze out. That'll give you some nasty-a** tasting s**t, so you're gonna want to combine it with 1 part nutmeg butter to 2 parts crunchy peanut butter, stir it up real good and allow to set.

Raw oil requires some equipment but is the purest. A straight-forwards steam distillation elading into a flask in an ice bath. For this purpose I prefer fresh, flat-leaf parsley (produces a flavourless extract) whose essential oil is 90% myristicin, however the other 10% is mostly apiole so preggers bitches should avoid that one unless they're looking to lose the little parasite.

As for what the trip tends to go like... with a straight-up... usually, it's alert is moderate-to-strong psychedelic headchange, slightly dirty, followed by rolling for a bit, followed by being blazed out of one's mind and/or being blazed into a coma, followed - if one is awake, by tripping... followed by a stimulant effect, sometimes still tripping... followed by cannabinoid euphoriogenesis/empathogenesis. Any of these can be present or missing depending on dumb luck. The psychedelic-headchange alert and the later psychedelic effect are qualitatively different, as is the initial cannabinoid "peak" of the experience and the later cannabinoid "hangover"... the latter being much more like cannabis with a very-pleasant mild tolerance, more spacey euphoric bliss with less ******** headtrip, which better resembles the former...

...and then, there's the nutmeg tea effect, warm, liquid nutmeg wax on the hot liquid of your choice. This has its own bonuses, and may be preferable to those who are worried about being catapulted into delerium for the next few days... much more random visions in a clear head and slightly less wasted into a coma for the peak... for instance. Much more social drug when spaced out that way.


I held some of the raw butter in my mouth for about 2 minutes, and it tasted like a**, which any nutmeg product will tend to do. About two minutes later I was feeling the start of a body buzz which took about half an hour to peak, at which point it felt like a decent ether trip plus a little psilocybin. Shadows and contrast was exaggerated, black looked purple and edges were sharp, but they undulated if I stared at them for more then a second.

Cotton mouth, yes, but I mostly ascribed that to the dry toast I spread it onto, and it was dispelled easily enough with a glass of coke. I walked to a nearby primary school, but as I did I couldn't seem to get any closer. I was watching the school down the end of the street and no matter how fast I walked or ran it wouldn't get any closer. If I looked at my feet I felt like I was standing still and the world rotating beneath me, like a treadmill. Only when I shut my eyes and walked for a while did it become closer (when I opened them again).

While there I hit a number of nangs, five to be precise, I loaded them all in and just kept taking hits from the bottle and grinning like a loon while I completely left the earth for a few minutes. After that, anytime I shut my eyes the world would spin madly and I'd fall over near instantly. I sat down, smoking my way through the best part of a pack of Kents as I steadily fell farther and farther into a pit of tripping utter balls until I saw the clouds morph into a giant swastika, descend from the sky and fly after me, breaking up into a ******** swarm of wasp-sized tiny swastika shuriken.

That's when I knew s**t was getting weird, and I wound up sprinting to my pal's place, and laying down on the couch beside my mate, and played mario kart until dawn. I slept for an hour, then walked home. Twelve hours later I was coherent and functioning, but still in a very floaty state, like the aftermath of a good DXM trip.

All in all? I'd give it a thumbs up, and put it over everything that isn't also in the psych/cannabinoid/empathogen class.
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