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billsabob

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:22 pm


My teacher and I got into a huge arguement in class one day over whether or not buddhism was a religion. I think it IS a religion, but she said it was only a philosophy, and said that many buddhists call it a philosophy too.
But everytime she would say it was a philosophy, she would go on and say something about the "Great World Spirit" and riencarnation of a soul. To me, that sounds like a religion. It all just sounded contradictory. What are your takes on this situation? What do you think it is? Religion or philosophy?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:16 pm


Whether or not you consider Buddhism a religion depends on how you define religion.

Buddhism does include a set of belief structures, as in all religions.

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Like all major religions, Buddhism contains an explanation of the origin of existence, a morality, and a specific set of rituals and behaviors. ... Buddhism presents a transformational goal, a desire to improve one's situation, and a distinct moral code.


Most governments even acknowledge Buddhism as a religion.

However, some definitions of religion require a belief in a god of some sort. Most branches of Buddhism would then be disqualified. It can be argued that the "Great World Spirit" your teacher mentioned isn't a self-conscious deity, thus not actually being a god.

On a personal level, when being politically correct, I'd call it a belief. When generalizing, I'd call it a religion. When being scientific, I'd call it a philosophy.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:02 am


[Not currently a member of this guild, but I sent an Join Guild thing and I'm checking things out.]

In my opinion, religion but with a philosophy you can somewhat take out of context.

At the most in-depth, to me it seems like a religion, especially in particular branches of Buddhism - with powerful bodhisattvas and whatnot, the specific ideas about samsara and karma and all. However, the general moral and ethical approaches to things, and perhaps the general idea - that there's an emptiness to things in reality, that we must realized to be free fro suffering - can be sort of "adapted" or taken even more metaphorically, as I do.

[That was a bad explanation, I apologize.]
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:59 pm


Well, when people say that buddhism is just a way of life, therefore a philosophy, can't we say that about just about any religion? Many very pious people I know take their religion farther than just going to church, and Im sure many people you know do it too. They live their lives for God.

Also, something else, couldn't all religions be also classified as philosophies? The text book definition of philosophy I have in front of me says "An organized system of thought". Isn't religion just a more refined system of thought?

billsabob


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:45 am


billsabob
Well, when people say that buddhism is just a way of life, therefore a philosophy, can't we say that about just about any religion?


I'd generally agree with this. Religion, to me, is supposed to be a way of life, not something you only consider when you feel like it. For the past while, though, the term 'religion' has taken such a different tone that the 'way of life' sentiment is more commonly associated with 'spirituality' than 'religion.'

In most respects, I also feel that any distinction between religion and philosophy is academic, not actual. The core of philosophy is often to discern the whats and hows of the universe. Not at all different from what religion does. You could make the distinction that philosophy doesn't use Divine explanations, but that isn't always true.

Some use this as an academic distinction though. And from that standpoint, Buddhism ISN'T a religion, because the very idea of Buddhism is to NOT rely upon Divine explanations. There are different varieties of Buddhism though, and some hold to the original ideas of Buddah more than others.
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