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BloodlvsTxBvtterflies

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:31 am


Okay, I'm not entirely sure where this should go so I'm putting it here.

First, a little background: I have some neurological and psychiatric issues that make it very difficult (nearly impossible) to quiet my mind.

I have never been able to meditate successfully and it is becoming increasingly frustrating; does anyone here have any experience with meditation and an overactive brain? If so...any help would be greatly appreciated.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:35 am


Oh yes. My mind can be quite noisy at times, especially when I'm overtired.

Ever try to focus on something, like a recording of the ocean, or white noise and attempt to use that to drown out the thoughts or music that's stuck in your head? It works for me sometimes.

..I wish I could suggest more, but I honestly don't do a whole lot of meditation.

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stupidkid23

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:36 am


I have a lot of psychological and neurological issues that make meditation hard. Depression and other issues run pretty strong in my family... I have trouble meditating also, so I just meditate to the best of my abilities.

First off, meditation is a time of total focus, either focusing on nothing at all, or focusing on a single thought (to the best of your abilities). It is extremely hard to quiet a mind that's going two hundred miles per minute.

I think you should just try multiple different methods of meditation, and do it repeatedly until you get a little better at it. Until you're good enough to meditate like most people (not including me) just keep practicing.

I personally don't find meditation to be necessary unless you can't manipulate energy when your mind is extremely active. Meditation helps, but for me it isn't necessary.

Another bit of advice is: meditation gets more difficult with the more time between meditation session.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:41 am


I know what your talking about... ADHD is no ones friend.

It doesn't necessarily require your mind to be quiet to meditate. I would just try to focus all my thoughts on one issue. I know that I have problems not thinking. Thus I try to pour all my focus through one outlet. I try to focus everything on feelings movement.
I sometimes do a lot of movement while meditating. Sometimes this helps quiet my mind, it definitely helps with focus.

I think that focusing on a single branch of thought it generally the best alternative. I find nothing truly productive in a quiet blank nothing going through my head.

Sometimes it works just to focus on emotions. No actual thoughts just the splash and play of desires.

If your trying to meditate for the sake of manipulating energy sometimes movement can help a lot more then stillness. You focus on the movement and on the energy, the energy going through your limbs, the focus of your intent and your intent moving through you and you influence through these movements.

I do this a lot when I feel the need to. Its good for exercise and helps in energy work at the same time.

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Aevey

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:42 am


I'm with Lobo on family background on this one. Took a solid 6 months to be able to meditate at a deeper level for more than 10 minutes. Took two years of 1 hour a night to get where I am now.

There are two main types of meditation: concentrative and mindfulness.

Concentrative would be the one most have mentioned. Focus hard on a sound, or a single image, idea, word, or phrase. Maybe stare at a mandala, focus on a mantra, or a candle flame, or your breath. Maybe do walking meditations, or yoga; not all meditation has to be done sitting still.


Mindfulness is the opposite. Instead of concentrating on one single specific thing, you try to increase your awareness. Currently you're conscious of the airconditioner humming, the music playing, the birds outside the window. You try to increase that consciousness to include the dog barking, the fly by your ear, etc. It's trying to open up to everything rather than close it down to one thing.

I switch between the two. Just experiment; if one's not working for you, try another. Perhaps try some guided meditaitons, those can be helpful. heart
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:36 am


Are you aware that there's a form of meditation that involves dance? Try a dancing meditation. Just turn on some music and dance to it. You'll be focusing pretty much solely on the music and movement; meditation doesn't neccesarily mean 'mind blank' but focused awareness as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:38 pm


Starlock
Are you aware that there's a form of meditation that involves dance? Try a dancing meditation. Just turn on some music and dance to it. You'll be focusing pretty much solely on the music and movement; meditation doesn't neccesarily mean 'mind blank' but focused awareness as well.


I was just going to mention moving meditations like tai chi chuan and some forms of qi gong. I've found those helpful.
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