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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:52 am


Has anyone heard the uproar over Ann Coulter's remarks on cable talk TV? I have read the transcripts.

Coulter has been accused of being anti-Semitic for saying we'd all be better of being Christians (Coulter professes to be a true believer). The interviewer, who was Jewish, took offense and asked if she meant Jews also. Coulter said that being a Christian wouldmake Jews "Perfect Jews". The program's host went berserk of course.

Coulter made a couple stupid, unbiblical remarks stating that ALL Christians are 'Perfect Jews' - totally blowing her understanding of the difference between spiritual children of Abraham and physical children...there is a particular denominationthat has taught that goofy idea but shall remainnameless here.

However, Ann Coulter is now being accused of hating Jews and has now been compared to that braindead president of Iran.

Has anyone seen the brouhaha and subsequent savaging of Coulter??


Transcript of the Coulter Interview:

Columnist Ann Coulter Shocks Cable TV Show, Declaring 'Jews Need to Be Perfected by Becoming Christians'

Thursday, October 11, 2007


Slash-and-burn columnist Ann Coulter shocked a cable TV talk-show audience Monday when she declared that Jews need to be "perfected" by becoming Christians, and that America would be better off if everyone were Christian.

Coulter made the remarkable statements during an often heated appearance to promote her new book on advertising guru Donny Deutsch's CNBC show "The Big Idea."

In response to a question from Deutsch asking Coulter if "it would be better if we were all Christian," the controversial columnist responded: "Yes."

"We should all be Christian?" Deutsch repeated.

"Yes," Coulter responded, asking Deutsch, who is Jewish, if he would like to "come to church with me."

Deutsch, pressing Coulter further, asked, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians?" She responded: "Yeah."

Coulter deflected Deutsch's assertion that her comments were anti-Semitic, matter-of-factly telling the show's obviously upset host, "That is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews."


DEUTSCH: Let me ask you a question. We're going to get off strengths and weakness for a second. If you had your way, and all of your ? forget that any of them ?

COULTER: I like this.

DEUTSCH: ? are calculated marketing teases, and your dreams, which are genuine, came true having to do with immigration, having to do with women's ? with abortion ? what would this country look like?

COULTER: UMMMMM (pause) ... It would look like New York City during the Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like.

DEUTSCH: And what did that look like?

COULTER: Happy, joyful Republicans in the greatest city in the world.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, no, but I'm talking about this country. You don't want to make this country ? it's not about Republicans. I'm saying, what would the fabric of this country look like? Forget that the Republicans would be running the show.

COULTER: Well, everyone would root for America, the Democratic Party would look like Joe Lieberman, the Republican Party would look like Duncan Hunter ?

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, I don't want ? I'm not talking about politically the landscape. What would our ? would we be safer? Would people be happier? Would they be more ?

COULTER: We would be a lot safer.

DEUTSCH: Would there be more tolerance? Would there be ? would women be happier, would the races get along better? The Ann Coulter subscription ? prescription. What ? tell me what would be different in our fabric of country, because ?

COULTER: Well, all of those things.

DEUTSCH: I can give ? I can give you an argument there would be more divisiveness, that there would be more hate ?

COULTER: Oh, no.

DEUTSCH: That there would be a bigger difference between the rich and the poor, a lot of other ? tell me what ? why this would be a better world? Let's give you ? I'm going to give you ? say this is your show.

COULTER: Well, OK, take the Republican National Convention. People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America, they ?

DEUTSCH: Christian ? so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not.

DEUTSCH: I actually am. That's not true. I really am. But ? so we would be better if we were ? if people ? if there were no Jews, no Buddhists ?

COULTER: Whenever I'm harangued by ?

DEUTSCH: ? in this country? You can't believe that.

COULTER: ? you know, liberals on diversity ?

DEUTSCH: Here you go again.

COULTER: No, it's true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that's really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And ?

DEUTSCH: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.

COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire "Seinfeld" episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some "Seinfeld" episode? OK.

COULTER: But yeah, I think that's reflective of what's going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches ? the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous.

DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not ? we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or ?

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly ? you're too educated, you can't ? you're like my friend in ?

COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean ?

COULTER: We have the fast-track program.

DEUTSCH: Why don't I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can't believe that.

COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.

DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, "Let's wipe Israel" ?

COULTER: I don't know if you've been paying attention.

DEUTSCH: "Let's wipe Israel off the earth." I mean, what, no Jews?

COULTER: No, we think ? we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn't really say that, did you?

COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners ?

DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued ? when you say something absurd like that, there's no ?

COULTER: What's absurd?

DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I'm going to go off and try to perfect myself ?

COULTER: Well, that's what the New Testament says.

DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans," and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I'm offended by that personally. And we'll have more "Big Idea" when we come back.

(BREAK)

DEUTSCH: Welcome back to "The Big Idea." During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I'm going to give her a chance. So you don't think that was offensive?

COULTER: No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe ? this is just a statement of what the New Testament is ? is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.

DEUTSCH: You said ? your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.

COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.

DEUTSCH: But that's what you said ? don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic ?

COULTER: No!

DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?

COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.

DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought. OK ?

COULTER: No, no, no, no, no. I don't want you being offended by this. This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. You know that. So we think Jews go to heaven. I mean (Jerry) Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. Ours is "Christ died for our sins." We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all.

DEUTSCH: We will let the audience decide then, won't we? Ann Coulter. New book. More "Big Idea" straight ahead

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:03 am


Oy vey! Unfortunately, most Christians think like her. And, they don't "obey laws" very well. What laws is she talking about? Like Sabbath, where they claim they keep it but go shopping, eat out, mow the lawn, etc., and they don't even get the day right! Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Christians. I just think many of them are as woefully uninformed as Ms. Coulter showed herself here.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:40 pm


Ms. Coulter probably has no idea how offensive she's being. She's not being ugly on purpose. She's been taught things all her life -- by her family, her church, and the people with whom she's chosen to surround herself -- that reinforce a very small knowledge base and a very narrow mindset. A little education would do her a world of good, or at least teach her why there are people who take offense at her words, which she believes she's saying out of love.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:47 am


She may be a product of what she was taught, but that's no reason to allow her to go on and spread the same misinformation to others. At this point, I don't see her learning anything, even if absolute proof were waved in her face.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:00 pm


Here's the thing. I hope she keeps spouting this until OTHER people realize how ridiculous it sounds. Even if she herself never does learn, at least she'll be making herself and her group of narrow minded cohorts look like idiots.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:01 pm


She was a deadhead, you can't take that seriously.

I personally think she says things like that just to get attention from people. All she does is spout off ridiculous statements like that all the time, because if she said what she actually thought, conservative a holes from Fox News wouldn't find her as amusing. Coulter needs to be a little more informed on the topics she rants about before opening her mouth about them. Of course, she probably thinks it's amazing that she's getting so much publicity because of this.

My thought is, don't pay her any mind. Even if she does think she's perfected beyong that of a religious Jew who follows all those pesky laws, she really isn't much more than a uneducated, liberal hating, political snob making her rounds. It's pathetic.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:58 pm


The thing that surprised me the most were some of the comments that were posted on the same page as the video clip. *sigh*

I don't think that she meant it as being anti-Semitic. It's what she could truly believe as a Christian. Not to say that what she said was right or that all Christians believe in such things, heavens no, but at the same time we just have to take it with a grain of salt and move on. It just shows how some of the public still needs to be educated.

I honestly don't like her in general. She complains about the left but at the same time, she is just like the extreme of it herself; unwavering in her opinions while making uneducated and ignorant remarks about the world. Stop hating and just live your life. W00t. 3nodding
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:57 am


cheribi
Oy vey! Unfortunately, most Christians think like her. And, they don't "obey laws" very well. What laws is she talking about? Like Sabbath, where they claim they keep it but go shopping, eat out, mow the lawn, etc., and they don't even get the day right! Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Christians. I just think many of them are as woefully uninformed as Ms. Coulter showed herself here.


Yeah, most of them do think like that. I work with a lady who is extremely christian. She believes her religion is the right one. She won't even listen to me when I try to make a point about other religions. She is so stubborn and pigheaded. She probably agrees with Coulter. It's messed up to say things about peoples religions. We follow our laws, most of the Christians do not. I have alot of friends who are christian, and none of them follow their laws.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:46 am


cheribi
Oy vey! Unfortunately, most Christians think like her.


I don't think that's true. I mean, she's kind of a total nutcase. I'd like to think that she's just engaging in some of the most clever satire the world has ever seen, and that after so many years she's going to come out and reveal that it was all one big joke.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:35 pm


She's a total nut. I've always thought that, but now I know for certain that she is totally out of her mind.

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YvetteEmilieDupont

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:59 pm


>.> omg are you serious... like you have to be kidding me you made this up right..

come on people you made this up there is no way there is someone that like.. . omg.. i can't even find the words... that has to be made up.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:56 am


YvetteEmilieDupont
>.> omg are you serious... like you have to be kidding me you made this up right..

come on people you made this up there is no way there is someone that like.. . omg.. i can't even find the words... that has to be made up.

Unfortunately, the world is not a good place, especially for Jews. Not that this is different from the norm, though. xp

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:11 pm


darkphoenix1247
YvetteEmilieDupont
>.> omg are you serious... like you have to be kidding me you made this up right..

come on people you made this up there is no way there is someone that like.. . omg.. i can't even find the words... that has to be made up.

Unfortunately, the world is not a good place, especially for Jews. Not that this is different from the norm, though. xp


We survived the Romans, we survived the Greeks, we survived Hitler, we can survive Coulter, Bush, and Ahmadinejad.

Let her say what she wants, it won't deter us from following G-d's laws, or from making the world a better place.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:22 pm


I agree with her on some things.. But then on other things I think shes a complete idiot..

Ultimately she is a shock jock - She is trying really hard to be controversial..

Therefore, when she says SHOCKING things, I don't take it seriously or to heart at all..

She is a very cold person.

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kingpinsqeezels

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:05 pm


Oh seriously, the president of Iran is no more of threat to us than this silly pundit.

Benzo's right, she only has one purpose, and that's to be controversial...
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