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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:35 pm


A lot of people, including me, believe that the story of Adam and Eve is a metaphor. But whether you take it literally or not, I believe that it still matters what you believe:

Was Chava (or Eve) created from Adam's rib or side?

I got this idea from watching Yentil. After all, being Adam's side sort of means that she is equal to him. My Hebrew School teacher believed that they were sort of like siamese twins, or Quirrel and Voldemort from Harry Potter, and God just sort of separated them.

If she was made from his rib, I could see that as an excuse to say that woman are lower than men, because she was part of him, rather than both of them being equal.

What are your beliefs?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:14 pm


Beliefs aren't really necessary, only a good dictionary of Biblical Hebrew. The word used means "side." When people ask someone, "So, where's your other half?" they're being very accurate.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:32 pm


It's really reminescent of the Hindu religion, and many others, where the male gods have female consorts that come from within them. It just represents balance. So, I guess I could believe that Chava came from Adam just like Parvati/Durga/Kali comes from Shiva. It would make sense that way, but doesn't the whole rib thing come from the fact that men have one less rib than women? I could just be making that up....
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:34 pm


Yea, you're right. I've noticed that before. Hinduism has some things in common with Judaism, but a lot more incommon with christianity really.
It amuses me how we have shiva for moaning and the shiva is the god of distruction.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:10 pm


All religions have a lot in common for a reason. People think that because the story of Jesus and the story of Horus are so similar, Jesus didn't exist.

I have a very interesting theory on why all religions can find similarites among them, but I won't go off topic here.

I don't think the bible should be translated literally. Did anyone ever see that episode of Star Trek where Captain Picard gets stuck on the planet with those people who speak in metaphors? It's kinda like that. Except not in space, and minus the Gilgamesh reference. 3nodding
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:41 am


I do believe the Bible should be interpreted literally... but that's NOT the end of the story. Torah is understood at multiple levels, and like the land which was unique for each tribe, each person understands Torah in their own unique way. There's an acronym for the ways in which to interpret Torah: PaRDeS. The word 'pardes' literally means 'orchard', and is related to the word 'pardis' in Arabic, which has become our English word 'paradise'.

PaRDeS stands for:
http://www.kolel.org/graphics/pardes.gif

Pshat - Literally it means 'simple', the plainest meaning of the text.

Remez - It means 'hint' and refers to the alluded meaning of the text, reading between the lines. Remez also includes gematria (Hebrew letters having numerical values... look this one up on your own).

Drash - Drawn-out, homiletical meaning. The word 'midrash' comes from the same root word as drash. It's an interpretation that is not explicit in the text. May teach a specific or practical lesson.

Sod - Literally 'secret', referring to the hidden, esoteric meaning to the text.

So as you can see, yes, one should start with a literal, simple interpretation and reading of the text. But no, no, no, it does not stop there. Keep digging and climbing in the orchard of meaning. You're sure to find some lovely fruit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:48 am


I believe Adam was an androgyne and that Eve's splitting off from him signalled the beginning of the two sexes.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:50 am


She came from his side the LORD said so

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