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Cynthia_Rosenweiss

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:09 am


I find this a little hard to believe. I mean, even if this were possible, shouldn't damage to its DNA kill it off?

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There has been an exciting new biological discovery inside the tomb of the Chernobyl reactor. Like out of some B-grade sci fi movie, a robot sent into the reactor discovered a thick coat of black slime growing on the walls. Since it is highly radioactive in there, scientists didn’t expect to find anything living, let alone thriving. The robot was instructed to obtain samples of the slime, which it did, and upon examination…the slime was even more amazing than was thought at first glance.

This slime, a collection of several fungi actually, was more than just surviving in a radioactive environment, it was actually using gamma radiation as a food source. Samples of these fungi grew significantly faster when exposed to gamma radiation at 500 times the normal background radiation level. The fungi appear to use melanin, a chemical found in human skin as well, in the same fashion as plants use chlorophyll. That is to say, the melanin molecule gets struck by a gamma ray and its chemistry is altered. This is an amazing discovery, no one had even suspected that something like this was possible.

Aside from its novelty value, this discovery leads to some interesting speculation and potential research.... there could be organisms living in space where ionizing radiation is plentiful. I’ve always been a big panspermia proponent, the idea that life did not originate on Earth but is actually common in the cosmos. Organisms that can live in space certainly gives more credence to this idea.

Possibly this could also be used to create plants or mushrooms that could grow in space, serving as a food source for space travellers. Maybe these fungi could be modified and used somehow to clean up radiation contaminated environments. There’s quite a few of those, in fact the disposal of radioactive waste is still a huge and unsolved problem. Now the fungi couldn’t actually eat the radioactive isotopes, I’m not saying that, but if they can live in radioactive environments they might be used to somehow scour out or concentrate the radioactive isotopes in such a way as to facilitate their clean up.

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So, what do you guys think?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:43 am


I'm surprised, yet not.


Though I'm not exactly a science major... I think most energy forms could probably used for energy... =O

somehow.

AirisMagik


Dewdew

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:31 pm


Cynthia_Rosenweiss


Possibly this could also be used to create plants or mushrooms that could grow in space, serving as a food source for space travellers. Maybe these fungi could be modified and used somehow to clean up radiation contaminated environments. There’s quite a few of those, in fact the disposal of radioactive waste is still a huge and unsolved problem. Now the fungi couldn’t actually eat the radioactive isotopes, I’m not saying that, but if they can live in radioactive environments they might be used to somehow scour out or concentrate the radioactive isotopes in such a way as to facilitate their clean up.

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So, what do you guys think?

They have found all sorts of new life forms where before they thought it would not be possible for them to live, so I am not so surprised about the idea of some kind of life form which uses gamma rays as a food source.

However, I don't see this as a potential food source for us. I mean growing mushrooms in space is a nice idea, but if its food source is gamma rays I can't see it doing us any good.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:38 pm


all living things thrive off of radiation.
the light from the sun that makes it possible for us to live on earth is radiation.
these organisms just eat allot.
as for your question on whether or not the radiation would mess with there dna...
the organisms could be so simple that there would not be much dna to damage. plus not all damage to the dna is harmful. some mutations have no effect on the cell at all.

we live in radiation.
although we can not live in that amount of radiation,
it is not impossible for there to be an organism which can.
there are, after all, organisms that can live in temperatures which we can not.

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Cynthia_Rosenweiss

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:14 am


f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
all living things thrive off of radiation.
the light from the sun that makes it possible for us to live on earth is radiation.
these organisms just eat allot.
as for your question on whether or not the radiation would mess with there dna...
the organisms could be so simple that there would not be much dna to damage. plus not all damage to the dna is harmful. some mutations have no effect on the cell at all.

we live in radiation.
although we can not live in that amount of radiation,
it is not impossible for there to be an organism which can.
there are, after all, organisms that can live in temperatures which we can not.


That's true, but radiation at those frequencies should have enough energy to break the molecular bonds holding organic matter together. At least I think so. What I'm saying is that the fungi ought to have irradiated to death before the melanin could transfrom the radiation into useable energy.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:17 pm


For those interested in learning a new word, the common term for species which survive in the most extreme of natural conditions is, appropriately, extremophiles. Some live in extremely saline environments, others in conditions of extraordinary hot, cold, acidity, or lack of water and/or oxygen. Each discovery of such a species has forced scientists to rethink their definitions of the boundary conditions at which life may exist, and this one seems to be pushing the boundaries in a rather unique area.

In a sense, the fungi in the radioactive area exist there by definition, as any creature that could not adapt to the radiation would be dead; sort of the anthropomorphic principle of fungi. Their existence is also slightly less surprising because of a previously known microorganism that has been shown in the laboratory to withstand radiation levels 1000 times higher than those which would kill a human. Somehow, microorganisms seem to be better at the whole radiation thing (as well as all the previously-mentioned extremophile conditions), which gives me great hope as to the possibility of tiny life on other worlds. My wish at the moment is that this discovery prompts astrobiologists to expand their search parameters to include higher-radiation environs.

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