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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:51 pm
I posted this in "Lifes Issues'' and got some really really good advice, and also some really angry and negative people. I think this might be a better place for it. I would really appreciate any help or insight that anyone can give me. Thanks in advance!
----- Hi there every one.Im new to Gaia, My name is Mary, and I have a bit of a problem. I'm 18 years old and just started University. (Yay! heart ) My problem is that well, i dont know much about anything about kids my own age. I've been home schooled my whole life, for religious reasons, and all the kids that I hung out with in youth group were self proclaimed jesus freaks, like myself! Well, now i'm going to a big state run university where everyone seems super hostile to religion and everyone, even the christians seem to just want to have sex and get drunk. I wanted to go to a christian college but just dont have the money and since my grades were so good I have a really great scholarship here.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm really afraid of this place. I was lucky to get a dorm room to myself, so all I do is study and pray, but I'd like to make friends. Although all the Jesus-centric groups on campus don't seem to be, well, very good christians at all.
Does anyone have any advice for how to make friends with good christian kids and how to keep my moral fiber strong through my college years and not descend to drinking and sex.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:13 pm
i'm only 16. but i've seen all of that stuff already. My advice, is to stay away from it. I like having friends. but if the only friends i can have are ones who will try and get me to drink, or have sex, then i dont need them. Perhaps you should take this approach as well. Also, pray that God will provide with a good friend who will keep you company.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:37 pm
If some people are hostile to you because you're a Christian, than they are not very good friends, are they?
Make new friends.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:54 pm
hmmm...i can understand where you are. i'm in my 4th year of college now and while now i'm at a Christian private school my first three yrs were in a state university, so i've seen a lot of what all goes on there. i know some of the self-proclaimed Christians just fall into some stuff and have never gotten out of it, even i have fallen into some of the things that the 'college experience' has to offer, and believe me it isn't worth it and it just pulls you away from God. (side track) so now still on the path of trying to get out of those things even though i still tend to slip up more then i succeed. anyways, College is a great place to make friends, i'd be selective as to who you'd call your best of the best friends and all b/c in my opinion it is good to have a close circle of friends who believe the same way you do...or at least close enough that it doesn't matter...since there are always slight differences due to doctrine and all that. if your having a hard time finding any friends ask God to bring you into an opportunity to meet one. i'd try looking at the BCM or the Campus Crusades, that's a good place to find Christian friends at and to find good encouragement at...plus if you find someone who's had a class before it's always nice to have someone willing to help if you need it. unfortunately when going to any college, even a Christian college, you'll find the world living, or more precisely dieing, around you. but don't let that stop you from living your life for God and don't stop looking for chances to share who God is with ppl. college is a big time of decisions and learning who you are. if you ever have any questions or just wanna chat then feel free to PM me.
remember God is always there beside you, keeping you safe and giving you strength
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:28 am
Unfortunately dealing with that kind of stuff is what we must deal with. Pray that God will give you strength. And maybe you could be a good example to your peers! Witnessing is what Christianity is about! I was never homeschooled, but I was still pretty sheltered. Last year was my first in college and it was crazy! People came into class talking about how drunk they got the night before, I never experienced that before. It's crazy. But remember, we aren't part of this world. Pray for strength and good Christians to befriend. But good luck! If you want to talk more, feel free to message me. blaugh
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:21 pm
theothermary I posted this in "Lifes Issues'' and got some really really good advice, and also some really angry and negative people. I think this might be a better place for it. I would really appreciate any help or insight that anyone can give me. Thanks in advance! ----- Hi there every one.Im new to Gaia, My name is Mary, and I have a bit of a problem. I'm 18 years old and just started University. (Yay! heart ) My problem is that well, i dont know much about anything about kids my own age. I've been home schooled my whole life, for religious reasons, and all the kids that I hung out with in youth group were self proclaimed jesus freaks, like myself! Well, now i'm going to a big state run university where everyone seems super hostile to religion and everyone, even the christians seem to just want to have sex and get drunk. I wanted to go to a christian college but just dont have the money and since my grades were so good I have a really great scholarship here. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm really afraid of this place. I was lucky to get a dorm room to myself, so all I do is study and pray, but I'd like to make friends. Although all the Jesus-centric groups on campus don't seem to be, well, very good christians at all. Does anyone have any advice for how to make friends with good christian kids and how to keep my moral fiber strong through my college years and not descend to drinking and sex. you seem to be removing yourself from your community (aperently of only students that want to have sex and get drunk) open up a bit there silly you don't have to do what your friends do and there is nothing wrong with drinking and having sex...doesn't mix too well but whatever you may not know it yet but there are good people out there even if they all don't share your values college is all about getting out of the box and seeing the world for what it really is (results may very) perhaps it would be best not to use people as a moral punching bag they really don't want to hear it i think that is why you are getting so many not so good responses ya hear what im saying?
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:16 pm
lordstar you seem to be removing yourself from your community (aperently of only students that want to have sex and get drunk) open up a bit there silly you don't have to do what your friends do and there is nothing wrong with drinking and having sex...doesn't mix too well but whatever you may not know it yet but there are good people out there even if they all don't share your values college is all about getting out of the box and seeing the world for what it really is (results may very) perhaps it would be best not to use people as a moral punching bag they really don't want to hear it i think that is why you are getting so many not so good responses ya hear what im saying? Agreed. Honestly, some of the people who helped me grow the most in my faith weren't Christian at all. Meeting and associating with people who have different views from you can be a very eye-opening experience and help put the world into perspective a bit. It's a good thing. Make friends. Meet new people. Obviously you'll need to find people who are respectful of your beliefs (since it's very difficult to be friends with someone who is ridiculing you all the time), but that doesn't nessesarily mean that they need to share your beliefs and values. If they like to party, just hang out with them when they're not partying. You don't need to do everything your friends do to be their friend. Get out of yourself a little. Expand your social circles and experiences. You can do all this while still holding to your own values and morals.
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:30 pm
lordstar theothermary I posted this in "Lifes Issues'' and got some really really good advice, and also some really angry and negative people. I think this might be a better place for it. I would really appreciate any help or insight that anyone can give me. Thanks in advance! ----- Hi there every one.Im new to Gaia, My name is Mary, and I have a bit of a problem. I'm 18 years old and just started University. (Yay! heart ) My problem is that well, i dont know much about anything about kids my own age. I've been home schooled my whole life, for religious reasons, and all the kids that I hung out with in youth group were self proclaimed jesus freaks, like myself! Well, now i'm going to a big state run university where everyone seems super hostile to religion and everyone, even the christians seem to just want to have sex and get drunk. I wanted to go to a christian college but just dont have the money and since my grades were so good I have a really great scholarship here. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm really afraid of this place. I was lucky to get a dorm room to myself, so all I do is study and pray, but I'd like to make friends. Although all the Jesus-centric groups on campus don't seem to be, well, very good christians at all. Does anyone have any advice for how to make friends with good christian kids and how to keep my moral fiber strong through my college years and not descend to drinking and sex. you seem to be removing yourself from your community (aperently of only students that want to have sex and get drunk) open up a bit there silly you don't have to do what your friends do and there is nothing wrong with drinking and having sex...doesn't mix too well but whatever you may not know it yet but there are good people out there even if they all don't share your values college is all about getting out of the box and seeing the world for what it really is (results may very) perhaps it would be best not to use people as a moral punching bag they really don't want to hear it i think that is why you are getting so many not so good responses ya hear what im saying? but there is stuff wrong with having sex if its outside of marriage. it's called adultery and is a sin Matthew 5:27-30 27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[a] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." 1 corinthians 6:12-20 "Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."[a] 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. 18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 1Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. 2For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 3It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4that each of you should learn to control his own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; 6and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. 7For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit. also drinking to much is not a good idea either. getting drunk is a sin within itself b/c it lead to not being able to have self control which is something we are instructed to have. 1 Thessalonians 5:7-9 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. Psalm 20:1 1 Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise. Ephesians 5:18 18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. having sex before marriage is a very bad idea so i think she has the right idea as to stay away from ppl who are doing that. same thing with drinking, sure it's ok every now and again (although i myself don't do it) as long as your don't have to much, and by that i mean at most, a drink or two with dinner,...you know the whole drinking responsibly thing... but once you get drunk you no longer have control over yourself. i'm not saying to segregate yourself from everybody, but you must be careful with who you spend most of your time around, we can learn things from non Christians but we must not forget the importance of being around fellow Christians.ppl who don't know God can still find truth that comes from him, but it doesn't mean that they've learned who God is, they are still non-christians. besides if don't allow ourselves to become friends with the unsaved then how are we supposed to win them to Christ?
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:16 am
trinity343 lordstar theothermary I posted this in "Lifes Issues'' and got some really really good advice, and also some really angry and negative people. I think this might be a better place for it. I would really appreciate any help or insight that anyone can give me. Thanks in advance! ----- Hi there every one.Im new to Gaia, My name is Mary, and I have a bit of a problem. I'm 18 years old and just started University. (Yay! heart ) My problem is that well, i dont know much about anything about kids my own age. I've been home schooled my whole life, for religious reasons, and all the kids that I hung out with in youth group were self proclaimed jesus freaks, like myself! Well, now i'm going to a big state run university where everyone seems super hostile to religion and everyone, even the christians seem to just want to have sex and get drunk. I wanted to go to a christian college but just dont have the money and since my grades were so good I have a really great scholarship here. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm really afraid of this place. I was lucky to get a dorm room to myself, so all I do is study and pray, but I'd like to make friends. Although all the Jesus-centric groups on campus don't seem to be, well, very good christians at all. Does anyone have any advice for how to make friends with good christian kids and how to keep my moral fiber strong through my college years and not descend to drinking and sex. you seem to be removing yourself from your community (aperently of only students that want to have sex and get drunk) open up a bit there silly you don't have to do what your friends do and there is nothing wrong with drinking and having sex...doesn't mix too well but whatever you may not know it yet but there are good people out there even if they all don't share your values college is all about getting out of the box and seeing the world for what it really is (results may very) perhaps it would be best not to use people as a moral punching bag they really don't want to hear it i think that is why you are getting so many not so good responses ya hear what im saying? but there is stuff wrong with having sex if its outside of marriage. it's called adultery and is a sin Matthew 5:27-30 27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[a] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." 1 corinthians 6:12-20 "Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."[a] 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. 18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 1Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. 2For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 3It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4that each of you should learn to control his own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; 6and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. 7For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit. also drinking to much is not a good idea either. getting drunk is a sin within itself b/c it lead to not being able to have self control which is something we are instructed to have. 1 Thessalonians 5:7-9 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. Psalm 20:1 1 Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise. Ephesians 5:18 18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. having sex before marriage is a very bad idea so i think she has the right idea as to stay away from ppl who are doing that. same thing with drinking, sure it's ok every now and again (although i myself don't do it) as long as your don't have to much, and by that i mean at most, a drink or two with dinner,...you know the whole drinking responsibly thing... but once you get drunk you no longer have control over yourself. i'm not saying to segregate yourself from everybody, but you must be careful with who you spend most of your time around, we can learn things from non Christians but we must not forget the importance of being around fellow Christians.ppl who don't know God can still find truth that comes from him, but it doesn't mean that they've learned who God is, they are still non-christians. besides if don't allow ourselves to become friends with the unsaved then how are we supposed to win them to Christ? I completely agree!
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:35 am
College is a wonderful time of life and yet so full of confusion as well. I've been out of college now for about 5 years and I look back on it as so far, THE most pivotal point in my life.
Before college I had an understanding of Jesus and never doubted what he had done for me. I loved him but it wasn't a deep and developed love. I saw little benefit in reading my Bible and my prayers were very one sided meaning there was no praise involved, simply me coming to him in desparation over this and that. I moved away from home to go to College and I had no Christian friends. I had a huge variety of friends, from people who believed in Wicka and astrology, gays and lesbians, people from all over the world...it was really cool and there is definitely some sort of a sensation you get when all of a sudden you're hanging out with such diversity. Its almost a rush! I prided myself on my ability to talk and hang out with all sorts of people but honestly, over time they did rub off on me in a not so positive way. I ended up dating girls who didn't believe in God, messed around sexually in ways I ought not have done and really just kind of moved away from my values very slightly and without my noticing it.
I'm not telling you that to scare you, simply that fellowship with other believers is always important as is your own personal study of Scripture and prayer with our heavenly Dad! This is the first time in your life where you get to decide for yourelf what you want to do, where you want to go, who you want to be around, how you identify yourself etc. It all rests on your shoulders now and in an environment where everybody is experimenting with the things this life has to offer you, be sure your first priority is building a solid foundation in the Lord.
Pray for God to provide you fellowship, a good church home away from home, good friends, a deepening relationship with Him, discipline in prayer and study etc. I'll be praying for you as well, and hey if all else fails you have fellowship here! Never hesitate to ask your brothers and sisters here in Gaia!
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:54 pm
Dcaff College is a wonderful time of life and yet so full of confusion as well. I've been out of college now for about 5 years and I look back on it as so far, THE most pivotal point in my life. Before college I had an understanding of Jesus and never doubted what he had done for me. I loved him but it wasn't a deep and developed love. I saw little benefit in reading my Bible and my prayers were very one sided meaning there was no praise involved, simply me coming to him in desparation over this and that. I moved away from home to go to College and I had no Christian friends. I had a huge variety of friends, from people who believed in Wicka and astrology, gays and lesbians, people from all over the world...it was really cool and there is definitely some sort of a sensation you get when all of a sudden you're hanging out with such diversity. Its almost a rush! I prided myself on my ability to talk and hang out with all sorts of people but honestly, over time they did rub off on me in a not so positive way. I ended up dating girls who didn't believe in God, messed around sexually in ways I ought not have done and really just kind of moved away from my values very slightly and without my noticing it. I'm not telling you that to scare you, simply that fellowship with other believers is always important as is your own personal study of Scripture and prayer with our heavenly Dad! This is the first time in your life where you get to decide for yourelf what you want to do, where you want to go, who you want to be around, how you identify yourself etc. It all rests on your shoulders now and in an environment where everybody is experimenting with the things this life has to offer you, be sure your first priority is building a solid foundation in the Lord. Pray for God to provide you fellowship, a good church home away from home, good friends, a deepening relationship with Him, discipline in prayer and study etc. I'll be praying for you as well, and hey if all else fails you have fellowship here! Never hesitate to ask your brothers and sisters here in Gaia! what was your major and where did you get your degree from?
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:12 pm
trinity343 but there is stuff wrong with having sex if its outside of marriage. it's called adultery and is a sin Matthew 5:27-30 27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[a] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." 1 corinthians 6:12-20 "Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."[a] 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. 18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 1Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. 2For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 3It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4that each of you should learn to control his own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; 6and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. 7For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit. also drinking to much is not a good idea either. getting drunk is a sin within itself b/c it lead to not being able to have self control which is something we are instructed to have. 1 Thessalonians 5:7-9 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. Psalm 20:1 1 Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise. Ephesians 5:18 18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. having sex before marriage is a very bad idea so i think she has the right idea as to stay away from ppl who are doing that. same thing with drinking, sure it's ok every now and again (although i myself don't do it) as long as your don't have to much, and by that i mean at most, a drink or two with dinner,...you know the whole drinking responsibly thing... but once you get drunk you no longer have control over yourself. i'm not saying to segregate yourself from everybody, but you must be careful with who you spend most of your time around, we can learn things from non Christians but we must not forget the importance of being around fellow Christians.ppl who don't know God can still find truth that comes from him, but it doesn't mean that they've learned who God is, they are still non-christians. besides if don't allow ourselves to become friends with the unsaved then how are we supposed to win them to Christ? do you really have nothing more to add than "because I/the Bible says so" do you have such little faith that you really think someone becomes just like the people they're around? She doen't have to do what her friends do (doen't require much brain power to figure that one out) adultery and sin are nothing more than BS social control think about it for a few how do you get people to do what you want fear is a good start right fear all the stuff you don't like ie sin and remember way back when there was a time when property only pased from father to son (I blame ___you know the drill____) so how do you make sure the son was of the father one way is social control documents another is FGC (look it up) think about it
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