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Does your favorite character like mustard?
  Yes! Loves it!
  Yes, hot dogs just don't taste the same without it to him/her. (Me: Ew! hotdogs!)
  No, could do without.
  No--it sickens him/her.
  I don't care.
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KirbyVictorious

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:18 am


I have found the fatal flaw in newborn writers.

You see, I go through and read a good portion of the newbie's stuff, and I see a sort of pattern--it's mostly that it's the first draft of the story, if it's even that, but there's something else. And slowly, I start to see it in other books too...books that feel stiff, lifeless, full of action, adventure, and romance but with no heart in it all the same...and I found what it was.

Mustard.

Look. If I go to any one of you novel-writers, or even you short-story writers, anything with a continuous character, (Hawk's Brian-and-spike, Reese's tragic-heroine, my Kamile-and-Everan, Tak's passive narrorator), I want them to be real people. Whether they're human, elfin, or a scrump (see Princess Mononoke the movie) I want them to have likes, dislikes, quirks, faults--a personality, in short.

There's always the stereotypes as far as elves, dwarves, etc. are concerned. Elves always have to be magical, graceful, pale-skinned, pointy-eared, beautiful, with smooth speech and immortality and infinite wisdom. They always have bows, or maybe swords. Dwarves are stolid, silent, tough, short, stocky, miners, warriors. They always have axes or broadswords. Centaurs and their future-telling and their bows, fairies and their tininess and their wings, merpeople and their singing, et cetera, et cetera, et frikkin cetera.

Now, I can't say I've avoided all the stereotypes, but I can safely say that my elves, at least, have personality. (Actually, in my book the humans are the ones that are considered abnormal...but nevermind.) Elves, dwarves, merpeople, centaurs, whatever, they're people! They have personalities! Not all of them can be swordsmen, archers, silent, pale, whatever. Intelligence has nothing to do with race. Every person is different--their race just classifies their anatomy (like pointed ears maybe), their culture, and whatever else you can think of.

We must remember also that there are in our world the blacks and the whites, but the whites are never WHITE, and the blacks are never BLACK. We're all every color in between. And some blacks are gangsters, and some are senators--and the same goes for whites as well.

If your elves are all the same, all intelligent and beautiful and wise and standoffish and haughty, that is blatant racism. Stoppit.

And aside from that, there's specific characters themselves. I can see that a lot of writers don't care about anyone but the main characters, but really, anyone that you bother to give a name to is important. Their name gives them personality. So I want you to be aware of that personality, and show it, be aware of it as you write about them. Even if they only dip in and out. If I ask you whether any named character likes mustard, then goddammit, you better know, and you better tell me!

I could tell you anything about my two main characters--I can tell you which is tone-deaf (Kamile), which is afraid of heights (Everan), which is a total coward (Everan, sorta, Kamile, sorta another way), which is the bloodthirsty murderer (neither--Kamile's bloodthirsty, Everan's a murderer) and which faints at the sight of blood (Everan, only not really fainting). And I can tell you right now that Everan likes mustard, Kamile could do without. So there. And Kamile also likes tea, and chocolate, and she hates carrots but loves potatoes, and she's ambidexterous--see where I'm going with all of this?

And they're also elves. See? No racism here. They're pointy-eared vegetarians who love trees, but that's as far as it goes, really.

Also, bad people are not stupid. Nor are they completely heartless (although they can be.) They have to have some good in them, or they wouldn't be people. And good guys aren't perfect. They can be completely retarded, or can't sing, or can't walk in a straight line, whatever. No hero is really perfect.

So make a list, who likes mustard and who doesn't, and tell me--I wanna know. And quit being so goddamned racist, fantasy writers!

Thank you, and goodnight.

~Your friendly neighborhood screw-up, Kirby II.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:15 pm


Just for you, I'm going to include a nice page all about mustard. xd

Reese_Roper


KirbyVictorious

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:19 pm


Goddamn right! ^^
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:42 pm


This is why I created a 200+ question personality test for every character I will ever name in the novel I'm going to write. Everything from their favorite food to what they would do when confronted with an escaped polar bear while touring Fracne (okay, so that's not actually one of my questions. But it makes a good example).

Becuase that's always my problem...I don't know my characters well enough.

Spastic waffles
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KirbyVictorious

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:26 pm


I know mine better than I know myself. But I alwasy find it unusual when other people don't, or don't care--and why aren't characters allowed to have depth? why do they have to be exactly like someone else?

Confuzzled is Kirby-chan. :/

PS: Personality tests? Link for Kirby-chan? Is it any good?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:51 pm


Bravo. Wow, there is so much great information in this subforum! Some of it seems very basic, and yet there are so many writers (myself included on this particular topic) that kind of forget about important things like good grammar and detailed characterizations. Oh, I loved your question by the way. It piqued my interest, which I'm sure was your intention. smile Great job and thank you for taking the time to write this post!

musicequalsoxygen


UsakoTenshi

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:43 pm


Actaully, I've been really wanting to get to know my own characters better, and this made me want to know even more of them. Lately, I realized that I know nothing about them, only the really major events that have changed their lives. But you're right. Which ones really do like mustard?

For me, I usally ask myself nowadays, 'Are they a righty? Or a lefty?'

I want to be able to understand them all, and though it gets so annoying sometimes, not being able to figure it out. You don't really need to at times, becuase they themselves can figure it out, just put yourselves in their shoes!

This has made me realize that there's even more information that I must ask my own characters and keep track of. And I thank you for that, because if one does not truly understand nor know their characters, or as some people think of them, their children, it'll hurt you later and them too.

And I'll make that list too! Though, you'll not know of all of the characters, except of Ark and kra, I think, I'll still show it to you! Just you wait! I promise you this!

Edit: Also, a lovely peice of your writting, Kirby. 3nodding
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:06 pm


Yay, and Yay!

Thaaaanks guys.

THE MUSTARD LIST!

....

Guys, I gotta admit, there is no mustard in Ametris.

Sorry.

KirbyVictorious

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