trinity343
ChibiLi
trinity343
ChibiLi
trinity343
yeah i hate the baggage. mine isn't yaoi...but it's just as bad...not that there is really any lvls of how bad something is....anyway. mine would have to be more along the porn/sex stuff. so again stupid baggage. it's something i've been working on for the last 6-7 yrs so and i still have a lot of trouble with it. not as much the online porn stuff anymore but more the sex/masturbation stuff. and it's not an easy fight and every time i fall to it i have to start over again from the start in getting myself away from it so it's a long uphill battle. but your definitely not alone in that. but the great thing is we're always forgiven and restored when we come to God. plus we have the added bonus of getting help from him when we ask....the only problem is we have to remember to ask..
Ooh good point. I don't understand why people in this guild are so touchy about masterbation (no pun intended). I mean, it's not a sin to me, can't imagine why it is O.o.
But yeah isn't the Lord good? He's so merciful and loving we could come to Him about anything and not only would he understand, he'll forgive us as well - no matter what. Isn't that precious? 3nodding heart
But yeah isn't the Lord good? He's so merciful and loving we could come to Him about anything and not only would he understand, he'll forgive us as well - no matter what. Isn't that precious? 3nodding heart
well i actually do see masturbation to be a sin...but that doesn't mean i'll stray from the subject when it needs to be addressed. my reasoning behind it being so is the same reason premarital sex is a sin b/c it is unclean and is a part of one's lust. i don't find it to be a healthy thing, i know a lot of ppl say it's just a natural part of our sexual nature...but most of our natural nature is sin so....yeah. rarely does masturbation happen without some sort of lust in one's mind/heart and of course our lust is a form of sin itself. Jesus himself told us that it is the lust that is the sinful part behind an action....not necessarily the action. b/c even sex wasn't created to be a sin it was created to be something experienced between a husband and wife, something to be enjoyed. we have just warped it with porn and prostitution and premarital sex and homosexuality
"It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like that heathen, who do not know God;..." 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
tell me...how is the act of masturbation or other sexual actions outside of marriage following this? if something doesn't follow God's will then it is automatically a sin. sin is anything that is not in obedience to God...anything that is impure and unholy.
Bluuberry
So you feel guilty about thinking about teen-boys having gay sex? And you do so because your pastor told you so? You say you were addicted to thinking about Yaoi and mastrubating?
It's just a bit silly...
Well, I don't think it should be a problem unless you try to repress it instead of working through it naturally.
My personnal belief is that most teen girls don't seem to mastrubate enough. Most seem to think of sex as an alien thing instead of as one of the most critical things to life. All the suppressed sexual energy makes them tense and less able to cope with growing up and reality in general.
It's just a bit silly...
Well, I don't think it should be a problem unless you try to repress it instead of working through it naturally.
My personnal belief is that most teen girls don't seem to mastrubate enough. Most seem to think of sex as an alien thing instead of as one of the most critical things to life. All the suppressed sexual energy makes them tense and less able to cope with growing up and reality in general.
of course guilt and shame is a natural consequence to our actions that are sinful by nature. it is supposed to be that way to make us understand that what do is wrong.
Good Lord thats the most conservative thing I've heard in my life. Masterbation isn't a sin because it isn't having sex with another person before marriage, and is really the body's natural response to sexual feelings. It's actually LESS natural to repress everything than to "act them out". Just let the body do it's thing -.-.
and if you believe that it shows you don't give a flip about obeying and loving God. i guesss though that's what the church leaders teach in the west now. "don't worry about consequences and sin and disobeying God no! do what you like as long as your not hurting anyway."
Nuuuuu gonk
I meant that even though what I'm doing is wrong..[whatever] of course I should always confess my sins to the Lord and ( 3nodding like I'm doing now) interact with other Christians which helps a lot. But it doesn't mean that I won't ever struggle with sin either, I just have to know what to do with the temptation comes. That's called wisdom in it's way.
Of course I care about obeying and loving God. If I didn't, guess what? I wouldn't care about what I'm struggling with. In fact, I won't even call it a "struggle", because how could I struggle with something I don't care about? That's not my church. It never was, and Lord willing never will be.
On the flip side, I do see many leaders of our brethren totally misleading Christians, so what you said, though it doesn't happen in my church, is very real. And very sad.
I meant that even though what I'm doing is wrong..[whatever] of course I should always confess my sins to the Lord and ( 3nodding like I'm doing now) interact with other Christians which helps a lot. But it doesn't mean that I won't ever struggle with sin either, I just have to know what to do with the temptation comes. That's called wisdom in it's way.
Of course I care about obeying and loving God. If I didn't, guess what? I wouldn't care about what I'm struggling with. In fact, I won't even call it a "struggle", because how could I struggle with something I don't care about? That's not my church. It never was, and Lord willing never will be.
On the flip side, I do see many leaders of our brethren totally misleading Christians, so what you said, though it doesn't happen in my church, is very real. And very sad.
