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MipsyKitten

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:05 am


I.Am
Ah, so it's another example of, "It's only a person if I want it to be a person?"

Personhood is granted at birth, and not a second before. This is US law. Also, the fetus must be born alive. This means a stillbirth, is not a person, it is a dead fetus.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode01/usc_sec_01_00000008----000-.html

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In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being “born alive” as defined in this section.


Personhood = legal definition granted by man. Man gets to set the criteria. A fetus does not meet this criteria.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:01 pm


MipsyKitten
I.Am
Ah, so it's another example of, "It's only a person if I want it to be a person?"

Personhood is granted at birth, and not a second before. This is US law. Also, the fetus must be born alive. This means a stillbirth, is not a person, it is a dead fetus.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode01/usc_sec_01_00000008----000-.html

Quote:
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being “born alive” as defined in this section.


Personhood = legal definition granted by man. Man gets to set the criteria. A fetus does not meet this criteria.


I should also note that this would obviously set precedent for other countries to follow. Such as Canada.

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