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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:22 pm
Sora Senpai Suicide it a weaklings way out, just suck it up and deal with it, life sucks so deal with it. No. Suicide is not always a weaklings way out. For people who are totally dramatic and actually have a decent life its a weaklings way out. For those who know they are going to die and that its going to be hell from here on out, it isn't a weaklings way out. Prolonged exposure to pain can really drain a person out. How do I know this? MY MOM HAS BEEN IN PAIN FOR FIVE YEARS! No, we have not talked about assisted suicide to her. She just got surgery to help take some of the pain away. PAIN is why people wish to die earlier. PAIN is a good reason unless its like one of those paper cut deals. Then you're a weakling. xd
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:41 pm
Heh, obviously only a handful of you know what you're talking about.
Nowadays, it's become the point of the government making choices for you. In other words, they seem to think as the Communists do. "You do not know what's good for you, so we will know for you."
You people who think we should suck it up and deal with it either have had no pain or think you have had pain. I had almost everything taken away from me in an ATV accident on the Fourth of July. I now have an almost perforated liver. The bruise covering my liver will not repair itself for many months, and if I ******** up, it'll completely perforate and I will die in less than ten minutes. So now I'm letting this get in the way of everything I'd like to do... I can't lift weights anymore, I can't march in my band, I can't go to my friend's house to play football, I can't do lots of s**t because if I do, I'll die. I also broke my wrist, but that'll pass. It'll heal up, and I won't feel that until I'm fifty. As for my liver, I can't do s**t about it. I'm hindering my own growth, and I'll become fat and miserable. Do you think that's justifiable suicide? I was 130 pounds. I had a six-pack. I worked out. I had a girlfriend who I loved. I had a life that I loved. But now, I can't really get over the fact that my metabolism's going to slow down before this liver heals. I can't help but notice that my health is declining, and soon I'll sink into heart problems. Is that justifiable suicide? Is it justifiable Assisted Suicide, should one of my friends help me avoid the humiliation?
Not really. I may not be able to strain myelf, but I can still turn to a healthy diet and walk around the block every day to keep up a daily excercise routine. I would only condone suicide to those who can't move or help themselves. While hindering, a broken wrist and a bruised liver isn't enough to keep me down and physically retarded. So for all of the whiney people who think a breakup or something petulant as that is enough to justify suicide, you're wrong. I don't believe I have the right to stop someone from commiting suicide, because no one does. If you want to die, kill yourself. But keep the rest of us out of it, because no one's feeling sorry for you.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:41 am
Lord Drago Heh, obviously only a handful of you know what you're talking about. Nowadays, it's become the point of the government making choices for you. In other words, they seem to think as the Communists do. "You do not know what's good for you, so we will know for you." You people who think we should suck it up and deal with it either have had no pain or think you have had pain. I had almost everything taken away from me in an ATV accident on the Fourth of July. I now have an almost perforated liver. The bruise covering my liver will not repair itself for many months, and if I ******** up, it'll completely perforate and I will die in less than ten minutes. So now I'm letting this get in the way of everything I'd like to do... I can't lift weights anymore, I can't march in my band, I can't go to my friend's house to play football, I can't do lots of s**t because if I do, I'll die. I also broke my wrist, but that'll pass. It'll heal up, and I won't feel that until I'm fifty. As for my liver, I can't do s**t about it. I'm hindering my own growth, and I'll become fat and miserable. Do you think that's justifiable suicide? I was 130 pounds. I had a six-pack. I worked out. I had a girlfriend who I loved. I had a life that I loved. But now, I can't really get over the fact that my metabolism's going to slow down before this liver heals. I can't help but notice that my health is declining, and soon I'll sink into heart problems. Is that justifiable suicide? Is it justifiable Assisted Suicide, should one of my friends help me avoid the humiliation? Not really. I may not be able to strain myelf, but I can still turn to a healthy diet and walk around the block every day to keep up a daily excercise routine. I would only condone suicide to those who can't move or help themselves. While hindering, a broken wrist and a bruised liver isn't enough to keep me down and physically retarded. So for all of the whiney people who think a breakup or something petulant as that is enough to justify suicide, you're wrong. I don't believe I have the right to stop someone from commiting suicide, because no one does. If you want to die, kill yourself. But keep the rest of us out of it, because no one's feeling sorry for you. You know, there was a kid in my English class who had something similar happen to him. He got into a dirtbike/motorcycle (some accident involving racing bikes) and quite literally cut his liver partially apart. Anyways, the point is that you chose not to kill yourself and you did not want to die. If you had wanted to die I would have said, "Fine go ahead and kill yourself, that is your choice and there is no turning back." But not everyone is you and not everyone may have the same amount of hope or strength in them to live and move on. (Yes we all agree that stupid break-ups are a retarded reason to go out and kill yourself and people try to do it anyways they should do it in a way that doesn't harm the rest of society, i.e. crashing your vehicle into someone else's vehicle.) But if someone else was say, in the same position as you, with the perforated liver and didn't have any hope left and wanted to die I would say he deserves the right to die if that is truly what he wants.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:28 pm
I didn't say I wouldn't kill myself if my liver was perforated. If that thing popped, I wouldn't wait for the color to drain from my face; I'd kill myself. I have a Colt .45 in a gun locker, and I know how to use it. Sure, it'll probably pop up in my face and break a few teeth, but I'll be dead by that time. That's without hope, and that's unhelpable.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:49 pm
Im Pro mercy killing. I have patients who only lives because the machines around them are what supports them. Take away the machines and their lives are gone. But just because im for mercy killing it doesnt mean id go around telling my patients families to pull the plug. Its better off by asking the patient himself if he/she wishes to die but if the patient id unable to speak then its only fair for the family to decide.
I just cant stand to watch a patient lie in bed with tons of machines around him and tubes everywhere. It makes me all weak inside.
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:17 am
Assisted Suicide? Well, if the person is determined to get it for quite some time [like a minimum of three months] unless terminally ill, then you should let it happen..
However, if you have a doubt of his true feelings and stand, then keep going, you never know it might be a sickness affecting his brain or something of that caliber.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:40 am
the only thing i am supportive of is the passive euthanasia of people who are brain dead, or would be dead if machines weren't keeping them alive. i like the idea of just letting nature run its course. i think its horrible that people have to suffer through painful, degenerative diseases, but i don't think its right to commit, or be assisted in, suicide.
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:43 am
Euthanasia is in no way "aggressive," I wrote my term paper on it about 3 years ago, it was about the time that that court case was going on... I think it should be legalized. After seeing my grandfather pretend to be a vegi-man for almost a year, I would have given anything to let him go. He was miserable, and I'm sure the worst part of it was he couldn't play poker every weekend with us. When people die, they're always in a better place, people always say that, wel if that was the truth why not let them go earlier. The only reason we don't practice euthanasia is because we're afraid of law suits and murder raps. If people are living only on machines, if they can not move, breath, make their heart beat, or even take a piss without a machine facilitating the actions, they should be allowed to die.
And for the mention of suicide, the taking of one's own life... Well, if you're that depressed and determined to get off this planet, then go for it. Noone wants to hear you whine anyways.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:18 pm
There are so many other ways to make a bad life better than to just end it... go on, think about it for a sec.
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