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Saint Lumari

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:52 am


I'd hate to be a killjoy here But want rules are we playing with?
Are we actually going by Naruto or are we just making s**t up?
Cause in the series, when Naruto did the chakra card he got one element not two. Also can't you do any element jutsu anyway?
I mean Kakashi does all kinds of s**t, and so does Sarutobi.
They use whatever element they want. I think its just what ever element you are you can do more and its eaiser for you.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:07 pm


the elemental techniques for naruto is actually explained in the manga how that possesing at least two elements is signs of that of a kekkei genkai blood trait and it seems that most people that possess a kekkei genkai trait is capable of using two elemental techniques such as sasuke fire and lightning, itachi's fire and water, the third hokage fire and earth, haku water and wind makes ice, and, yamato/hashirama water and earth makes wood. But I dont know how kakashi fits into this but maybe because of the sharingan he can posses more than one the whole everybody can gain two elements on their own is kinda stuff that the anime makes on their own. the people here in the guild that uses elemental techniques most of them have bloodlines so accessing two elements for them is there for possible.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:36 pm


No, you don't have to have a kekkei genkai to have two elements. According to Kakashi's explanation, most people start off with one element. Jonin and higher can control two or even three, so it appears that you gain the capability to affiliate with more elements as you train more.

Kekkei genkai = the ability to combine two elements into another one

Ex: Haku can control water and wind. Other regular ninja can control water and wind, but since Haku has a kekkei genkai, he is also able to make ice. Keep in mind that this is only one kind of kekkei genkai; there are others like dojutsu (eye techniques, Sharingan and Byakugan).

I think it's possible to do any element jutsu but if you're not affiliated with that element, I guess it's less effective?

Explanation from Kakashi himself: http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume35.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=31128

((Chapter 315, he starts off with talking about training with the tajuu kagebunshin first, but it goes into elements in a few pages))
PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:47 pm


If only he asked Yamato to take a card, because I don't know how it works for those who have affinity to more than one element...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:50 pm


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yeah it would but more like a wind and earth combo just thinking


Yeah, sand is basically particles of rock. In other words, earth. Wind just moves it around.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:19 pm


Yukki focuses her chakra, then the card cut in half and incinerated. Yay!

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Saint Lumari

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:38 pm


that only further proves my point. people lean towards one element. and other lean towards two which is always a kekkei genkai. but not defing the kekkai because Kinomaru has dead bone pulse and thats not about chakra at all. its about his body and bones being special.

But Kakashi is lighting . he has used fire, water and earth jutsus.
thus everybody can use all elements but their "natural" element is stronger.
and don't say its the sharigan cause only the rinegan can fully use all element at there max.. the sharigan only copies the chakra shaping and how the technique is implemanted.
and since its dna based the user gains a fire attribute as well.
but kakashi isn't blood bourne so that can't explain his using all this elements
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:43 pm


Yeah thats correct but we limit the use of the chakra elements for those who either match their level or have a kekkei genkai blood limit for people at genin level can use one element.but some kekkei genkai's allow two people can naturally gain another element when they reached jonin rank or so and three when reached kage rank but as what jiraiya actually stated in his battle with pein only the rinnegan can acutually allow capapble use of all elements which quote no single person can have as well yamato briefly said there is no shinobi he heard of that can use all five but your point on the other factors are pretty valid and I agree with. ButI allow people with a pretty valid kekkei genkai to use two elements at a early stage like kimmimaru's kekkei genkai is that of a physical one. By manipulating the calcium mass through the osteoclats and osteoblasts of his bones he can regrow and use them to his will a bloodline limit that uses it's physical properties. But since his clan focuses on mainly taijutsu and not ninjutsu we are not completly certain that he is not capable of mastering two.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:20 am


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Yeah thats correct but we limit the use of the chakra elements for those who either match their level or have a kekkei genkai blood limit for people at genin level can use one element.but some kekkei genkai's allow two people can naturally gain another element when they reached jonin rank or so and three when reached kage rank


What? I think I kind of get what you're saying here, but it's kind of hard to make out amid the sentence structure O_o
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:25 pm


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Yeah thats correct but we limit the use of the chakra elements for those who either match their level or have a kekkei genkai blood limit for people at genin level can use one element.but some kekkei genkai's allow two people can naturally gain another element when they reached jonin rank or so and three when reached kage rank


What? I think I kind of get what you're saying here, but it's kind of hard to make out amid the sentence structure O_o


basically people are capable or learning more then one element but this takes time for normal people without kekei genkai's to learn. But people with kekei genkai's have an advantage over this ability to learn more then one element at a younger age or at a earlier rank dont really know why but this has been proven over the course of the series. But just like everyone in the guild they can learn a third element when they reached a Kage level rank.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:22 pm


Shinji focused his chakra into the card. His card split in half and then crumpled into dust.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:23 pm


Cody places the card between his hands and focuses his chakra as the card becomes soggy and then splits in half in his hands.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:43 pm


dude you get one element at first not three right away.
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