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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:20 am
My brother is wanting to possibly start up and Ork army and we have a few questions. First, how do looted tanks work? I remember hearing a while back that you can use any tank from the game and just modify the stats and make it Orky, but according to the Codex you might only be able to use the Leman Russ. Is this true, or are there still rules to make kustom Orky tanks?
Also, how do you go about making Orky tanks? Do you buy sets of sprues specially made for Orkying up, or do you use extra bitz from sets bought?
Thanks in advance.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:21 pm
Aku Kami Kurayami My brother is wanting to possibly start up and Ork army and we have a few questions. First, how do looted tanks work? I remember hearing a while back that you can use any tank from the game and just modify the stats and make it Orky, but according to the Codex you might only be able to use the Leman Russ. Is this true, or are there still rules to make kustom Orky tanks?
Also, how do you go about making Orky tanks? Do you buy sets of sprues specially made for Orkying up, or do you use extra bitz from sets bought?
Thanks in advance. The current Orks codex lets you take a Looted Wagon as a Heavy Support choice. It doesn't matter much what you use (except maybe a Land Raider), because when the Meks are done with it they all have the same numbers. They can either act as transports (say, Rhinos or Chimeras) or equip a big Boomgun (Leman Russ, Tau Hammerhead), and either version can equip a couple smaller gunz on the side. I haven't made one yet, but if the mods will let me I could give you some ideas on how to convert one. Actually, this seems right up Shinobi's alley too.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:42 pm
That would be kinda cool. Mainly we would really like to know what to use, like spare bitz and sprues or other things. He has a Basilisk at the moment so I assume that it would be possible to convert that, since you could take it as a tank or artillery type unit.
Is it that hard to convert?
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:55 pm
Hmm, a Basilisk...
I'd say cut the barrel to about half its length and have it pointing almost level with the ground (if you can - I don't know much about how Basilisks go together...). Then just give it a nice Orky paint job and maybe stick a pair of Big Shootaz on the sides, and you'll have yourself a bona-fide Looted Wagon with Boomgun and 'Ard Case!
Oh yeah, there's a good bit of stuff you could stick on there as well. Reinforced Ram, Armour Plates, Wreckin' Ball, and even a Skorcha!
Of course, if you really want to know everything that you can do with Looted Wagons, I'd suggest your brother pick up a copy of Codex: Orks. I can't exactly tell you everything you're allowed to do, else I'd get into trouble. Just remember: probably the number one goal of Orks is to have fun!
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:23 pm
Yeah, was telling him about that and what I was thinking. The Basilisk's cannon moves up and down so there is no problem with that. I could prolly pop off the pintle guy and fine a way to stick an ork in there.
The one think I want to know it how you make it looked more like it's been pieced together, like a bad fix up. Should we just use the extra bitz from sprues, or is there a different way that most people do it?
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:03 pm
If it's crappy repairs you're looking for, plastic card is what you need. You could get sheets of it from your local hobby store, but that can be quite pricey. Another source would be For Sale signs - definitely cheaper and perfect for patching up the sides, but I'm not sure if you want it to look like it's been bolted or welded on, and you definitely don't want to use it for building anything up.
Of course, those extra bits will certainly help as well. Nothing says "rush job" like an upside-down dozer blade!
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:34 pm
All I can say is: Add glyphs, rivets and plates and of course, battle damage.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:28 pm
If you want to convert a Basilisk to a Looted Basilisk I'd use some glyphs that you can get here or if you have a little extra to spend, here. Use a sharp hobby knife or jeweler's saw to fashion battle damage and wear and tear, especially around the edges or moving parts. Keep in mind Orks don't keep their stuff maintained. Add some dust or sand used for basing around the tracks and bottom of the Chassis and do something like put a few bullet holes in the doors or front of it using a hobby drill, cut a door in half so you can see inside partially, or put some skulls around for decoration. You can also buy Gretchin from Games Workshop's Bitz service to mount on it if it's large enough - I'd recommend an oiler grot.
However, keep in mind that each Ork will mod his thing different, and it will depend on what clan you play as ( Evil Suns will paint it red, Goffs black and white, Deathskulls blue ). Don't just paint it darker colors and slap a few glyphs on - everyone and their mother does that. If you're going to loot it, loot it properly.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:43 pm
Goffs don't use black and white, Goffs use black with black/white checkers and red details to be precicely.
But yesh, colour also helps making the vehicle, just google looted wagon for inspiration or become a member at www.the-waaagh.com and check out the forums for some looted basiliskt. wink
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:20 am
Ianator Aku Kami Kurayami My brother is wanting to possibly start up and Ork army and we have a few questions. First, how do looted tanks work? I remember hearing a while back that you can use any tank from the game and just modify the stats and make it Orky, but according to the Codex you might only be able to use the Leman Russ. Is this true, or are there still rules to make kustom Orky tanks?
Also, how do you go about making Orky tanks? Do you buy sets of sprues specially made for Orkying up, or do you use extra bitz from sets bought?
Thanks in advance. The current Orks codex lets you take a Looted Wagon as a Heavy Support choice. It doesn't matter much what you use (except maybe a Land Raider), because when the Meks are done with it they all have the same numbers. They can either act as transports (say, Rhinos or Chimeras) or equip a big Boomgun (Leman Russ, Tau Hammerhead), and either version can equip a couple smaller gunz on the side. I haven't made one yet, but if the mods will let me I could give you some ideas on how to convert one. Actually, this seems right up Shinobi's alley too. Isn't the hammerhead a skimmer, I thought orks couldn't loot skimmers.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:34 am
Xeal_Rommel Ianator Aku Kami Kurayami My brother is wanting to possibly start up and Ork army and we have a few questions. First, how do looted tanks work? I remember hearing a while back that you can use any tank from the game and just modify the stats and make it Orky, but according to the Codex you might only be able to use the Leman Russ. Is this true, or are there still rules to make kustom Orky tanks?
Also, how do you go about making Orky tanks? Do you buy sets of sprues specially made for Orkying up, or do you use extra bitz from sets bought?
Thanks in advance. The current Orks codex lets you take a Looted Wagon as a Heavy Support choice. It doesn't matter much what you use (except maybe a Land Raider), because when the Meks are done with it they all have the same numbers. They can either act as transports (say, Rhinos or Chimeras) or equip a big Boomgun (Leman Russ, Tau Hammerhead), and either version can equip a couple smaller gunz on the side. I haven't made one yet, but if the mods will let me I could give you some ideas on how to convert one. Actually, this seems right up Shinobi's alley too. Isn't the hammerhead a skimmer, I thought orks couldn't loot skimmers. just give it tracks, then its not a skimmer, and it fits the rules
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:12 am
Xeal_Rommel Ianator Aku Kami Kurayami My brother is wanting to possibly start up and Ork army and we have a few questions. First, how do looted tanks work? I remember hearing a while back that you can use any tank from the game and just modify the stats and make it Orky, but according to the Codex you might only be able to use the Leman Russ. Is this true, or are there still rules to make kustom Orky tanks?
Also, how do you go about making Orky tanks? Do you buy sets of sprues specially made for Orkying up, or do you use extra bitz from sets bought?
Thanks in advance. The current Orks codex lets you take a Looted Wagon as a Heavy Support choice. It doesn't matter much what you use (except maybe a Land Raider), because when the Meks are done with it they all have the same numbers. They can either act as transports (say, Rhinos or Chimeras) or equip a big Boomgun (Leman Russ, Tau Hammerhead), and either version can equip a couple smaller gunz on the side. I haven't made one yet, but if the mods will let me I could give you some ideas on how to convert one. Actually, this seems right up Shinobi's alley too. Isn't the hammerhead a skimmer, I thought orks couldn't loot skimmers. No one said the vehicle would be actually skimmering, the ork codex just lets you loot anything, but they still go by the same rules, it could be more like hoovering in fluff.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:42 pm
well the closest thing orks have to hover tech is their deffkoptas, so when it's looted the meks shouldn't really know how to get the thing floating again. What fire-link said made sense though it's kinda what I'd expect a mek to do, If he can't get it all floaty-like again just slap some treads and all sorts of killy things on it. It should stay well within the rules and fluff that way. biggrin
Edit: ah wait I guess I should have payed more attention to 4th edition codex rather than old info
",or they may even be anti-gravity skiffs that the Orks have not had a proper chance to crash into the ground yet."
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:53 pm
Oh the Meks so would know (unless it'd be a dimwitted Goff Mek).
The thing is that ork meks doesn't know how things work, they just do, how do you think they get warp technology into weapons?
And there's several skimmer type ork vehicles, like the mine thingy in the apocalypse book. o 3o;;;
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:24 am
Oh man. The line about Deff Koptas now has me imagining a Hammerhead with all kinds of Deff Kopta rotors mounted on it to keep the thing aloft.
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