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 Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:24 pm
Reddemon darkpunk0525 Reddemon Samulin Question: say you have a battle suit with one twin-linked weapon system and then a single weapon... like: twin-linked fusion blasters and then a missle pod. then add a hard wired multi tracker. could i fire both the twin-linked system AND the single system? I think i can, but im not to sure. Twinlinked counts as a single weapon system I do belive. So yes you can. Dosent take too much mind power to pull the trigger and fires out a wave of fusion energy with one hand and press the button to fire off a missle pod Just a tip, this is just me but with a broad side I find that a twin-linked rail gun and twin linked plasma rifle system with a multi-tracker is well worth it in points after all the XV-88 is a killing machine allready But, without the extra point increase ment, youve got more shots, without line of sight Yes.yes point taken
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:26 pm
][ Typo Demon ][ ok heres an army list that unfortunatly i cant make yet because th emodles arnt out yet but its golden shas'0 plasma fusion multitracter shield generator stimulant injector bodyguard plasma frag projector multitracker 6 stealths 6 stealths 6 stealths 6 fire wariors carbines 6 fire wariors carbines 5 piranha fusion targeting array decoy lanchers 5 piranha fusion targeting array decoy lanchers 5 piranha fusion targeting array decoy lanchers this equils about 2007 points the HQ will be deep striking and the stealths infiltrating remember that because of teh piranha i will have 3 10 man squads of gun drones floating around as well. what do you all think? im testing it out with a friend tommorow hopefully Dude....read the rule book the limit is 1500 points, before you post get the facts straight
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:45 pm
What the ******** are you talking about?
1500 point limit my a**.You can have an army of any size.
I've seen 2500 and 4000 point armys.1500 is recomended and for each 1500 points you use one force organisation chart IIRC.
2007 points is a bit stupid though.You either have 2000 on the nose or just under but never over.Just drop something from the HQ.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:12 pm
darkpunk0525 ][ Typo Demon ][ ok heres an army list that unfortunatly i cant make yet because th emodles arnt out yet but its golden shas'0 plasma fusion multitracter shield generator stimulant injector bodyguard plasma frag projector multitracker 6 stealths 6 stealths 6 stealths 6 fire wariors carbines 6 fire wariors carbines 5 piranha fusion targeting array decoy lanchers 5 piranha fusion targeting array decoy lanchers 5 piranha fusion targeting array decoy lanchers this equils about 2007 points the HQ will be deep striking and the stealths infiltrating remember that because of teh piranha i will have 3 10 man squads of gun drones floating around as well. what do you all think? im testing it out with a friend tommorow hopefully Dude....read the rule book the limit is 1500 points, before you post get the facts straight Golden? I'm not really seeing that, and I reccomend heavy playtesting before you get the models for this beast. You seem to have foregone the usual longrange of the tau, but this might not work out so well. I think a few armies would do really good against what you've got here and three come to mind...Hormagaunt-heavy army, 19-24 inch charge is longer range than anything you've got except your plasma rifle. Speed freeks would get in fast too and they might be more effected by the fusion guns but it you're out fo range you're screwed. An armoured column would also do well if it could smoke your pirahnas then you'd be up against a wall. Reddemon Did the nids have extended carapace on the troops No, it wouldn't have mattered. Everything I had had 4ap or better, except kroot who never even got to shoot.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:18 pm
for my IG army im making them have drop troops abbillity to deep strike behind those damn firing lines of the tau
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:31 pm
Walter_the_butler#1 for my IG army im making them have drop troops abbillity to deep strike behind those damn firing lines of the tau so they can shoot the turn they land, big deal. Heavy weapons stay forewords & Tau fire warriors open up on em
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:46 pm
i have made modifications to my test army above after playtesting it a few times with my friend it now contained the fallowing
HQ
shas'o plasma fusion multitracter vecotred thrusters stimulant injector vectored thrusters
shas'el plasma airburstfragprojector multitracker
bodyguard plasma (fusion or misslepod-cost same) multitracker
bodyguard plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker
ELETE
6 stealth targeting array
6 stealth targetting array
crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker
crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker
crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker
TROOP
6 wariors
12 wariors in devilfish
FAST
3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers
3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers
3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers
its 1997 points.
the missle pods and fusions are the same price so i can switch them around as i pease. i always deepstrike my shas'o...just because i can
my stealths always infiltrate just so i dont have to deploy them untill the end...i usually put them close to my deployment zone anyways. my skimmers i usually leave and place entirely on one side of the bored with the least amount of troops with the stealths to take care of troops. i like sending my entire army to just one side of the oponents. i faced nids in my testing....he had 2 fexes 2 tyrants and a thobe, wariors, raverners, hormagaunts gaunts and stealers, his gaunts never got into assult instead just shot at my skimmers. at least one of his raverners always got into assult. i got lucky with this skimmers and took out a monsterous creature ever turn. with aid of stealths...... i think its a solid army so tell me what you think. also i woudl like to know what wepons i shoudl put on the crisis suits. the misslepod or the fusions. i like upclose and personal,my thoughts are keep my hqs with fusions and my elete crisis with missles....
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:11 pm
Typo Demon i have made modifications to my test army above after playtesting it a few times with my friend it now contained the fallowing HQ shas'o plasma fusion multitracter vecotred thrusters stimulant injector vectored thrusters shas'el plasma airburstfragprojector multitracker bodyguard plasma (fusion or misslepod-cost same) multitracker bodyguard plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker ELETE 6 stealth targeting array 6 stealth targetting array crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker TROOP 6 wariors 12 wariors in devilfish FAST 3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers 3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers 3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers its 1997 points. Pardon my saying so but none of your bodyguards or other Crisis suits save your commanders have all thier hardpoints filled, at least as you have written. Each suit needs three weapons or support systems. And your Shas'o has a rules violation as it is carrying 4 hardpoint systems, and has two sets of Vectored Thursters. And if you're only going to give the suits Fusion OR Missiles, why give them a multi-tracker? I don't suggest giving the Airburster to your Shas'el. Many times you'll be firing it from behind cover, out of LOS, and won't be able to benefit from the plasma while he's firing the Airburster. This is also REALLY troop light for 2000 points. Be prepared to take hits to your sportsmanship score if you field this in a tourney.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:03 am
The limit is not 1500, that is just hte sujested limit! You can ahave a 10,000 point battle if you wanted, even if a single phase would take a year and the models would be worth a small fortune!!!
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:22 pm
Sry I ment to say that regulation size for tournaments are 1500, my bad for not being specific enough SRY people
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:26 pm
Now that we have gotten past my stupid comment, My army is really small and I only have 100$ subtract the rule book its 90 which leaves me enough for the battle pack, but It only gives you one Crisis suit do any of you have any suggestions on what might be better to buy because the the moment I only have 12 fire warriors in my possesion(( the rest I lost GAHHH))
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:07 pm
Oryn Typo Demon i have made modifications to my test army above after playtesting it a few times with my friend it now contained the fallowing HQ shas'o plasma fusion multitracter vecotred thrusters stimulant injector vectored thrusters shas'el plasma airburstfragprojector multitracker bodyguard plasma (fusion or misslepod-cost same) multitracker bodyguard plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker ELETE 6 stealth targeting array 6 stealth targetting array crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker crisis plasma (fusion or missle pod) multitracker TROOP 6 wariors 12 wariors in devilfish FAST 3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers 3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers 3 pirhana fusion targeting array decoy launchers its 1997 points. Pardon my saying so but none of your bodyguards or other Crisis suits save your commanders have all thier hardpoints filled, at least as you have written. Each suit needs three weapons or support systems. And your Shas'o has a rules violation as it is carrying 4 hardpoint systems, and has two sets of Vectored Thursters. And if you're only going to give the suits Fusion OR Missiles, why give them a multi-tracker? I don't suggest giving the Airburster to your Shas'el. Many times you'll be firing it from behind cover, out of LOS, and won't be able to benefit from the plasma while he's firing the Airburster. This is also REALLY troop light for 2000 points. Be prepared to take hits to your sportsmanship score if you field this in a tourney. ok ALL my bodyguards have 3 hardpoitns filled, they have 2 wepons and a multitracer. the shas 'o only has 3 harpoint options, the multitracter is harwired ...and th ethrusters are a typo...if you didnt see my name...its typo demon for a reason. im giving teh suits plasma, AND eithger fusion or missles btw... why woudl i be fireing the ABF from behind cover? as far as i know you still need line of sight to fire the ABF.....and i may not have many troops but the stealths and gun drones in the army make up alot of S5 AP5 shots. and i wouldnt be losing sportsmanshiop points, i would be losing points fo rcomposition. sporsmanship is determaned by how you play the game last i checked...now how your army was made...hence composition....
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:46 pm
darkpunk0525 Sry I ment to say that regulation size for tournaments are 1500, my bad for not being specific enough SRY people no its not it depends fully on the tournament you are in, i have played in 500pt tournies, 1000pt tournies and i know that some are 2000pt, the theirs things like conflict as well which works on a doubles system. its inpossible to make a tournie only army as they all difer in sizes and restrictions
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:09 pm
menoftanith darkpunk0525 Sry I ment to say that regulation size for tournaments are 1500, my bad for not being specific enough SRY people no its not it depends fully on the tournament you are in, i have played in 500pt tournies, 1000pt tournies and i know that some are 2000pt, the theirs things like conflict as well which works on a doubles system. its inpossible to make a tournie only army as they all difer in sizes and restrictions The Standered Tournaments are 1500 points GAHH dosnt anyone read the rule book.....,I know I know....I made that stupid comment before without being specific and now im gonna get eate alive...But now in all seriousness I need tips on what t buy (( c my last post))
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:16 am
Typo Demon ok ALL my bodyguards have 3 hardpoitns filled, they have 2 wepons and a multitracer. the shas 'o only has 3 harpoint options, the multitracter is harwired ...and th ethrusters are a typo...if you didnt see my name...its typo demon for a reason. im giving teh suits plasma, AND eithger fusion or missles btw... why woudl i be fireing the ABF from behind cover? as far as i know you still need line of sight to fire the ABF.....and i may not have many troops but the stealths and gun drones in the army make up alot of S5 AP5 shots. and i wouldnt be losing sportsmanshiop points, i would be losing points fo rcomposition. sporsmanship is determaned by how you play the game last i checked...now how your army was made...hence composition.... 1. Point. I hadn't noticed your Plasma in the bodyguard line. In the future, use your shift key, and some breaks, like commas, colons and dashes. when writing army lists. Makes it easier to tell what's what. Also, note what is hardwired and what is not. 2.You'd be firing the Airburster from behind cover because it's a guess range weapon, i.e. a barrage weapon. 3. You are correct, I meant composition, not sportsmanship. The point stands however, that that's damn few troops for 2000 points. darkpunk0525 Now that we have gotten past my stupid comment, My army is really small and I only have 100$ subtract the rule book its 90 which leaves me enough for the battle pack, but It only gives you one Crisis suit do any of you have any suggestions on what might be better to buy because the the moment I only have 12 fire warriors in my possesion(( the rest I lost GAHHH)) Er, what? A ten dollar rulebook? What kind of rulebook is this? A codex alone is at least 20 bucks, and if you don't have the BGB, then that's going to short you about $50. And the Battleforce is usually a pretty good deal. To field a minimum sized army, you're going to need 2 troops choices and a commander, which the Battleforce supllies you with. of course, you can always buy a Crisis commander and another box of Fire Warrios for 60 bucks total, but I think the battleforce comes with more stuff. Other good buys are Hammerheads, which are brutally effective tanks, or Stealth Suits. I'd pick up the Hammerhead after getting the required one commander and two troops.
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