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 Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:33 pm
Vivnox Mcphee The only purpose of having a gun is to use it against someone, or some animal, violently.
I just don't get the appeal. Being able to kill with a little weapon has some sort of a draw?
It just... I don't know. Guns aren't something I find useful or conducive to society. I don't hunt or attack people. For me if I have a lot of stress and I can't go dancing or horseback riding I go down to a shooting range and fire. Only reason I want to have the concelled carry is because I've been raped twice (three times if you count just penetration and the guy doesn't orgasm as rape) and I'd want to basically blow the guys balls off.
Violence isn't something that I'm ever willing to condone, in any case.
But use a non-lethal means of protection. I mean, for heaven's sake, it's a gun, not a safeguard.
The most dangerous thing you can do with a gun is load it, and have the intent to use it on a human being.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:35 pm
Mcphee Vivnox Mcphee The only purpose of having a gun is to use it against someone, or some animal, violently.
I just don't get the appeal. Being able to kill with a little weapon has some sort of a draw?
It just... I don't know. Guns aren't something I find useful or conducive to society. I don't hunt or attack people. For me if I have a lot of stress and I can't go dancing or horseback riding I go down to a shooting range and fire. Only reason I want to have the concelled carry is because I've been raped twice (three times if you count just penetration and the guy doesn't orgasm as rape) and I'd want to basically blow the guys balls off.
Violence isn't something that I'm ever willing to condone, in any case.
But use a non-lethal means of protection. I mean, for heaven's sake, it's a gun, not a safeguard.
The most dangerous thing you can do with a gun is load it, and have the intent to use it on a human being.What do you think Police Officers do every time they load their guns before they go to work. Thats why its there, with intent to use it on a human if need be. They hope they never have to, but thats why its there. SOme times, pepper srpay or a stun gun won't work.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:41 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Mcphee Vivnox Mcphee The only purpose of having a gun is to use it against someone, or some animal, violently.
I just don't get the appeal. Being able to kill with a little weapon has some sort of a draw?
It just... I don't know. Guns aren't something I find useful or conducive to society. I don't hunt or attack people. For me if I have a lot of stress and I can't go dancing or horseback riding I go down to a shooting range and fire. Only reason I want to have the concelled carry is because I've been raped twice (three times if you count just penetration and the guy doesn't orgasm as rape) and I'd want to basically blow the guys balls off.
Violence isn't something that I'm ever willing to condone, in any case.
But use a non-lethal means of protection. I mean, for heaven's sake, it's a gun, not a safeguard.
The most dangerous thing you can do with a gun is load it, and have the intent to use it on a human being.What do you think Police Officers do every time they load their guns before they go to work. Thats why its there, with intent to use it on a human if need be. They hope they never have to, but thats why its there. SOme times, pepper srpay or a stun gun won't work.
More often than not, you're eager to use it because, well, a gun is all about having power. A gun is essentially a symbol you're using to force someone to do something, because you have more power than them, with the threat of killing them.
I don't like guns, because people DO misuse them. It almost seems like they're more than eager to pull a trigger when things look bad, despite what else might be happening.
Violence is never a solution to any situation.
I believe in Self-defence to a point-- Use the force that's necessary to protect yourself without killing another person.
I personally, no matter if it was in self-defence or not, would be disgusted if I ever fought back with someone with the intent to hurt them. Or if I accidentally killed someone. Heavens, I would feel awful.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:42 pm
Also, in response to the Liberal party wanting to ban handguns, I agree with it.
Handguns are not used for hunting. They're used for killing other people if it's 'necessary'.
That's simply it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:45 pm
True... handguns won't do much (unless you're hunting something tiny... I don't know why you'd shoot a rabbit or a squirrel with a rifle) hunting. But for me I like target shooting. Most rifles/shotguns have too much kick for me.
Also:
Ah, I'm going to be going home... where all I have is dial up, sparatic jumping into wireless, friends filling up my times, and a um, a shag buddy. So I might not post much.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:34 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Quote: Basically in Canada there's aren't a lot of people with handguns anyway so it's not the same as in America where you go "Oh well what if someone..." then various senarios because chances are that the person wouldn't own a handgun. LOTS of people own rifles however. There are quite a few people here in Canada that still hunt and fish for food, not as a main diet of course but you know what I mean. The situation is Cannada is much diffrent then in America. Also, a hand gun and a rifle are two very diffrent peaces of machinery, used in diffrent way, to obtain the same goal. Rifle can be large and bulky, and are not as easly stored or kept nere. Incase of a break in, a peron would have to grab his rifle (most likely form a locked gun safe) load it and heft it up, all in the process mackign quite a bit of noise, allertign how ever broke into their house. Possibly the only gun that would work in this scenario is not a rifle, but a shot gun. Most likely a 12 gauge pump action with the shortest barrel legaly available. Quote: Quote: Other than that banning handguns would reduce the amount of handguns available to not just the general public, but criminals as well. There would no longer be an opportunity for people to buy handguns legally and then sell them illegally, there wouldn't be anymore people stealing legally bought handguns etc. No, they would obtain them illigly and sell them illigly. Banning guns would only make illigle gun possesion higher and worseand would also increase the outlets for illgile weaponry.
Also there would be some people (mostly teens) who could get ahold of guns through stealing them but wouldn't be at the point yet where they would go far enough to obtain illegal guns.Quote: Quote: not that this is a MAJOR problem here but I'd like to point out the fact that the kids involved in the Columbine shooting bought all the guns that the used completely legally. Those kids didn't buy the guns, they stole them from their parents. The problme here was not guns, it was people. Quote: Quote: Now would this stop EVERYONE? No, but it would stop a lot of people. If they wanted to commit something like a school shooting it would be a lot more difficult to get a rifle into school then a handgun. It would only stop the honost people. School shootign won't stop either. If a kid realy wanted a gun, he'd find one, escpecialy in this contry. Quote: Quote: For the gang thing it wouldn't really give them a whole lot of power. Allowing gang members to get ahold of guns easier won't reduce crime. Again, here, it not the guns that are the problem. Its the people. Even if you make handguns illigle these kids will still have guns ANd the biggest problem is that, in America, you can't make any type of fire arm illigle.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:36 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Beware the Jabberwock Guns can misfire and kill something, they're quite dangerous. And guns locked up by themselves aren't dangerous, no, however a person with a gun is a LOT more dangerous than a person without one. If a armed person comes into the house and is threatened they're a LOT more likely to shoot than if the person isn't armed. A person coming to rob your house with a handgun is likely not to think twice about shooting someone and if the person is acting aggressive towards the robber they're even less likely to think about it. A robber is more likely to shoot if he's caught? You just validated my point. If the person they are robbing has a gun as well, they stand a chance. If no gun, no chance. The chance of a gun, especialy the ones made today, misfiring is only if its handled improperly. Thats why we have gun safty coarses.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:39 pm
Wait, yoru not talking about the US? Wait, you live in canada, of coarse your not XP Can't beilived I missed that. Welp, I'm not worried then. You can get a firggen stinger missle here if your willign to go through all the red tape.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:53 pm
Silly Pyro... Trix are for kids.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:58 pm
Vivnox Silly Pyro... Trix are for kids. I'm 17. I'm technicly still a kid whee
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:50 pm
I notice Pyro and some other people have been disagreeing a lot recently on little things, and I know you're all just correcting him, but lately, it seems like you're ganging up on him more than just correcting him, even if you're not trying to... maybe there's a more polite way to explain all your points? Like through PM's, maybe? sweatdrop Not saying the gun thing was rude, just mostly remarking about some other dissagreements.
Well, anyway, maybe I'm just overreacting. How's everyone going to celebrate their Christmas?
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:36 pm
Lorysa Well, anyway, maybe I'm just overreacting. How's everyone going to celebrate their Christmas? Yay, Christmas again stare . No spirit whatsoever in this house, and even my cheer happy go lcuky attitude on life is diminishing because of some s**t that happened to me today. I wish I just had some time to be with her. *kicks a random box*
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:52 pm
********... ANOTHER POSTED ABORTION gonk .
I feel so shitty right now.
I'm just going to go ******** ******** ********.
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:01 pm
Mcphee Here's the thing: People think that because they have a gun, they have carte blanche to fire it when need be.
More often than not, you're eager to use it because, well, a gun is all about having power. A gun is essentially a symbol you're using to force someone to do something, because you have more power than them, with the threat of killing them.
I don't like guns, because people DO misuse them. It almost seems like they're more than eager to pull a trigger when things look bad, despite what else might be happening.
Violence is never a solution to any situation.
I believe in Self-defence to a point-- Use the force that's necessary to protect yourself without killing another person.
I personally, no matter if it was in self-defence or not, would be disgusted if I ever fought back with someone with the intent to hurt them. Or if I accidentally killed someone. Heavens, I would feel awful. When some one actualy has their finger on the trigger, they are actualy extremly hesitent to use it, unless they are positivly sure its what they want to do. They are hesitent because they know its another human being at the end of the bullet's path, and they coudl seriously hurt or kill this person, somethign the human mind is naturaly against. Not only that, wiht out proper trainig and conditioning (whether taught by self or by some one else), the normal person would fumble under stress and probably completly forget they even had a gun if under extreme stress. None of the situations in life are any thing liek you see int he movies. And thanks to shows like Cops, people have it in their head that, like you said, people are inclined to use a gun when they have it. In actuality, months can go by in a police department with out a single shot ever being fired.
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:05 pm
Master Kaiser gonk .
I feel so shitty right now.
I'm just going to go ******** ******** ******** class="clear"> Well, what were you expecting. Did you think APP was goign to be the only one?
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