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 Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:50 pm
The system isn't complicated =( It's actually rather small. It's just a 15-point system, where you start at 0 and buy additional points. As you gain points, points start costing more. 1-6 cost 1 point
7-10 cost 2 points
11-13 cost 4 points
14-15 costs 6 points
So, for example, a Captain's stats (they start with 68 points), might look like this: Physical Strength: 8 (10 points) Agility: 11 (18 points) Hakuda: 0 Zanjutsu: 10 (14 points) Reiatsu: 12 (22 points) Kidou: 4 (4 points) So as you go higher, the points start adding up - reflecting the fact that the higher your skill goes up in an area, the more effort you have to put in. For example, if you wanted a 15, your stats might look like: Physical Strength: 2 (2 points) Agility: 10 (14 points) Hakuda: 0 Zanjutsu: 15 (38 points) Reiatsu: 10 (14 points) Kidou: 0 So now you're ridiculously awesome with your sword, but you have less defense (Reiatsu in this system), hit like a feather pillow, and aren't as agile. So the system prevents the god characters that exist in this system, since everyone has 10/10 in everything.
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:52 pm
I don't understand, and I started at it for a good 2 minutes.
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:52 pm
Now I'm thoroughly lost.
Why can't any of you stat system making people make a system that doesn't confuse me immediately?! gonk
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:56 pm
Omg, it's basically a modified version of the same point-buy system that EVERY table-top game ever made uses xd
You have 68 points to spend. Stat points 1-6 cost 1 point, 7-10 cost 2 points, 11-13 cost 4 points, and 14-15 cost 6 points.
So if you want a 10, you'd spend (1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2+2 = 14 points for those 10 levels in whatever stat, like Agility).
Similar to the system now, except the system at the moment is 1 point per stat point for ALL levels (1-10).
EDIT: Ok, lemme just compare the systems, making a Captain in both.
Current System
48 Points. 1 point per stat point.
Ph. Str.: 10/10 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 10 points)
Agility: 10/10 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 10 points)
Reiatsu: 10/10 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 10 points)
Zanjutsu: 10/10 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 10 points)
Kidou: 0
Hakuda: 8/10 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 8 points)
My System
68 Points. Increasing cost per stat point.
Ph. Str: 10/15 (1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2+2 = 14 points)
Agility: 10/15 (1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2+2 = 14 points)
Reiatsu: 10/15 (1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2+2 = 14 points)
Zanjutsu: 10/15 (1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2+2 = 14 points)
Kidou: 0
Hakuda: 9/15 (1+1+1+1+1+1+2+2+2 = 12 points)
The systems basically equate, it's just my system has more freedom (at the cost of increasing point cost), and doesn't run into the issue where everyone has max stats.
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:06 pm
-rubs bridge of nose-
Basically I see three problems coming my way and I'll just post what I told Dante;
Quote: [19:41] TeNoriTaigaa: I officially hate this new stat system.[19:41] Dante: For just one reason, or for several reasons?[19:43] TeNoriTaigaa: No matter how I work out the stats, Hei will fall too short of his reputation. It will, theoretically, suddenly and significantly alter the outlook people have of him, and it will significantly alter the fighting style I've been using with him for months now, one that I am, need I remind you, incredibly content with.[19:48] Dante: So... what Taiga do?[19:48] TeNoriTaigaa: Cry until she gets her way.[19:49] Dante: Damn, better hide in the storm room then >.>[19:50] TeNoriTaigaa: I mean... is good system, but I don't like the fact that I will have to;[19:50] TeNoriTaigaa: A) Edit 4-5 profiles and do math, which already annoying as hell.[19:50] TeNoriTaigaa: B) Reduce the power and later the fighting styles of my RPCs.[19:50] TeNoriTaigaa: C) Teach Anna a new style for Yuki and Nanashi And keep in mind that this was when I was under the impression that I was divvying up 68 actual points between areas. >.>
Personally, I don't see how any of this is different since the Captains will all still be at the same relative power level, just in different areas. neutral They'll still be gods, just on a smaller scale. ><
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:09 pm
...Idk. Do Tadashi's if this becomes mandatory :/
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:12 pm
It's actually called a "bounding issue" in stat-point systems.
At the moment, everyone is at the upper bound of the system (10/10), meaning that they are no longer bound by anything other than infinity, essentially meaning there is no limit to their power in that area.
With the 15-point system, everyone would be at the same relative power level (unless they wanna re-distribute points or w/e), yes, but now they are bounded. They are no longer gods, since they are now bounded by 11, not infinity. If someone has an 11, they are more powerful than the person with 10.
In the current system, there is no way to get an 11, and even if the caps were increased, because there is no increasing/exponential costs for points someone could just gimp a random stat to re-cap themselves (since there's a 1:1 buy-point:stat-point ratio).
Whatever though, I was just doing it for fun, didn't really expect to get it approved *stares at Hei*
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:17 pm
※ My spirit knows... ╔ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx╗  ╚xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx╝ XXX
*barks at Kei* Woof!
XXX ...no bounds. ※
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:17 pm
Rin, I had the impression that you did expect it. Not saying "LOL HAHA FAIL", i'm merely just giving you the feeling I got.
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:20 pm
I get the point of it, and if it won't make Hei weaker, then I'm less mad at it.
My new main issue would be having to think about it. You have no idea how frustrated Dante's specialized stat system made me; I'm horrible with numbers because I second guess myself all the time.
I'm not mad at you or anything; I'm mad at math.
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:32 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:34 pm
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:34 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:36 pm
Taigaa-tono I get the point of it, and if it won't make Hei weaker, then I'm less mad at it.
My new main issue would be having to think about it. You have no idea how frustrated Dante's specialized stat system made me; I'm horrible with numbers because I second guess myself all the time.
I'm not mad at you or anything; I'm mad at math. -big hug-
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:39 pm
*Stands at attention* HAI!
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