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 Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:41 am
Hi, I've been playing clarinet for 6 years which has been since the 4th grade. I'm not in a marching band but I would like to be. I'm in my schools band though.
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:31 pm
The reason for the wwhwwwh scal series is because we like that scale to have 8 unique pitches repeated in octaves, al though there are only 12 unique 'semitones' or pitches. Yes, in some oriental music there are 'quarter steps' which are between each half step, but our ears are so used to hearing pitch divided up into those 12 notes that we can't distinguish that small of an interval. Not every nation had used the 8 note scale system (which spans all the minors, majors, and any other scale you've played). I recall the native music of africa is based on a 4 tone series, and native americans as well. Southeast asia has often used the pentanoic scale series, commonly know to us as the 'black key notes only' songs. Ever heard Variations on a Korean folk song? Well, the original theme can still be played using only the black keys on a piano. That is also true with many of the simple 'chinese' songs we learn early on as well. If you are asking about why we use this scale series, why not ask all the other obvious questions? I mean, there's no particular reason C is concert pitch (other than because the majority of concert instruments are tuned to C). Why is the pitch A fixed at 440 for aerican tuning but 420 for European tuning? Why does the most basic scale start on C instead of A, like it's alphabet counterpart? Why are clarinets most commonly tuned in Bb (or A, I'm generalizing sopranos) when they can just as easily be made to tune to C like their string companions? These kinds of things don't particularly matter, because we aren't going to change any of this. Just learn what you can, and seek out what you can't.
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:11 am
Actually the main reason that most instruments are in the key that they are in is because there intonation sounds best in that key.
An Eb (above saprano not alto) Clarinet sounds very different than a Bb clarinet but often it will play there part or the oboes.
Stringed instruments have strings to use to tune their notes so you would go for the desired size for intonation and since the strings can be tuned to the desired pitch it only makes sense for them to be tuned in C.
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There are 7 different modes not 8 (the eighth would be the octave).
There is Aeolian (Minor), Ionian (Major), Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian and Locrian. Each different mode represents the intervals used to make a scale.
Major being - W-W-H-W-W-W-H
Minor being - W-H-W-W-H-W-W
I'll save you the intervals of the rest. You can here each scale by taking a piano and playing the white keys only from one note to the octave above it. (Ionian starts on C and Aeolian on A and I believe Dorian on D)
As you will find quickly some of the scales sound a bit more traditional and some sound like a jumble of notes.
The most popular modes used are Major and Minor because our minds for some reason respond to them better.
Dorian is often used in Jazz music I believe.
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The reason B sharp and C flat aren't the same note is take a look at your piano keys. There pattern is (starting from middle C)
white, black, white, black, white, white, black, white, black, white, black, white, white
notice that there are occasions where there are two white keys.
The reason is that when we started writing our music we understood that there are 8 notes in a scale BUT we failed to notice that there are twelve main audible notes.
So we assigned the 7 notes in the scale Letter Names (A through G)
But if we always wanted it to be black, white, black, white, on a keyboard then we should have changed it to having Six notes assigned to letter names and the rest of the 12 audible pitches using sharps and flats.
Then your B sharp and C flat would be the same note.
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Hope I shed some light by posting a steak-pie sized post.
Do we have a music theory section in this guild?
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:55 am
i have been playing for five years, but sadly i will be switching to french horn cry
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:34 am
I'm a clarinetist too! I've been playing for about 5 years... I march it in the Lightning Regiment Marching Band for Chancellor High School. I know it doesn't seem like a big deal but we got 10 clarinetists this year (upcoming freshies that is...)
heart Gotsta love the clarinetists. heart
~Muzical_Angel~
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:02 am
Go clarinets! *throws confetti* WEEH! AAH ITS IN MY EYE! x.o wooooohhh?
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:08 am
Chocovash3 If you are asking about why we use this scale series, why not ask all the other obvious questions? I mean, there's no particular reason C is concert pitch (other than because the majority of concert instruments are tuned to C). Why is the pitch A fixed at 440 for aerican tuning but 420 for European tuning? Why does the most basic scale start on C instead of A, like it's alphabet counterpart? Why are clarinets most commonly tuned in Bb (or A, I'm generalizing sopranos) when they can just as easily be made to tune to C like their string companions? These kinds of things don't particularly matter, because we aren't going to change any of this. Just learn what you can, and seek out what you can't. no, I'm not asking that. I'm not eloquent in the first place, and going to my school (AKA the ghetto school) and living in a small city hasn't made me eloquent or helped me in music theory, either.
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:14 pm
o_o...whats going on in here?
DX gonna have clarinet lessons in three minutes...i don't want to :[ me stomach hurts DX ahhhh and then those long tones make me stomach hurt DX
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:08 am
I have been playing the clarinet for 3 years (well when school starts again 3 years) I wanted to play the flute but clarinet was my 2nd choice. I started playing in the 6th grade I love it sooo much. heart
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:24 pm
Hey, im brittany; this coming school year i will have been playing for 5 years; im pretty good; one of the first clarinet parts; now, especially since the really good senior is gone
i was in marching band in middle school and so far one year of high school, this year we got new uniforms!!!!!!!!! yay! but for majority of our parades; we didnt have our coats yet; so he just wore the pants
Some of my friends and i decided that we looked like Hitlers Mechanics lol
As we were marching without our coats some little kid was like "Mommy look at them! they're in snowpants!!!!" lol
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:19 pm
Hello, I'm foamy and Ive been playing the clarinet for...a little less than a year- noo! I'm a clarinet newb crying anyway, I just started last year for 6th grade.
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:21 pm
Hey, even the new clarinets are awesome! Its just the simple fact that you are playing that is awesome! Congrats for choosing one of the best instruments out there!
And I agree Muzical_Angel, you just gotta love the clarinets!
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:47 am
'ello new people
the pink ladies- ahh clarinet was my first choice and flute was my second.. sweatdrop if I played the flute I would've failed at it gonk
black dark child- five years!? ::gasp;: I've only been playing for two years!! xD hitler...
otaku- awee :[ its alright! I was like you last year XD...you're a seventh grader now? I'm gonna be an eighth grader this year ^-^ its gonna be my third year playing blaugh you probably sounded better then I did when I was in sixth grade~
jaden- ^_^ teh clarinet is the most superior instrument <3 much love for the clarinet blaugh
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:48 am
I have only been playing for 2 years. xd
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:11 pm
Yes, I'll be in seventh grade next year and still playing old clary.
I remember the first time I saw the clarinet, and I was like
HOLY CRAP!! LOOKIT ALL THE BUTTONS gonk
lol. Then I learned that I only have to learn to play less than half of those buttons in my first year xd
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