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 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:17 am
Ryo: Ah! ... *Just realized he totally forgot about responding in Hidden Passion* T^T Sorry!
Some Mod who isn't me: Would you go look at the Character change I just did?
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:08 am
the above is fine. @Ryo- Its Earth 2 Robin who turns to be Huntress.. I believe. RIGHT UBER SEXY Love this pic as well 
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:44 am
@Hare - Haha it's fine :3 Take your time in your post.
I'm hella slow now a days so it's fine.
@Drago - Ooh that is adorable!
You know what would be awesome,..
If Freakazoid, The Mask and The Creeper joined forces!
Imagen the chaos of sheer insanity!
This needs to be cannon!
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:44 am
RyoRin @Hare - Haha it's fine :3 Take your time in your post.
I'm hella slow now a days so it's fine.
@Drago - Ooh that is adorable!
You know what would be awesome,..
If Freakazoid, The Mask and The Creeper joined forces!
Imagen the chaos of sheer insanity!
This needs to be cannon! ... IT shall be canon.. and WE WILL MAKE IT EXIST
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:47 am
YES!!!
Maybe have The Heckler also and Rag Doll join that bat s**t team.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:24 am
So..this is amusing. I gave Oraj three to four days to reply...before I killed him. Two days after killing him, he returns and tells me it was solely a Kage Bushin that was killed while firing fireballs from the ceiling. xD
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:52 am
Reaver Darkside Ryu Gekkou Oraj: You amuse me...for this..I think I shall continue this. xD On a serious note...if no one has seen Kagami out of her body...then who come everyone knows she is a ghost? After all Crius is the only person who has seen her true from.
And by all that; I mean: People are cheaters.HERE HERE! *applauds* I try to be careful not to do that myself, with the occasional exception of 'if a person is reasonably infamous, then some information would have disseminated by now'. Like everyone knows who Hedoro is, the figure covered head to toe in rags. Stuff like that. But beyond that, I think that she'll be developing a taste for metagamers... Or rather, I do have a plan to at least try to show people how doing such a thing can be very bad... Drago knows what I'm talking about. Likewise, I think I'm going to have fun abusing the heck out of the clone system we've put in place, to help with that particular brand of magic fix. Make it bad enough, then it'll have to be fixed, yes?
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:47 am
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:39 pm
Drago | Yay! -glomps- Good luck, dear. I mean, good luck Drago. I hpe all goes well and I will soon be calling her your wife when asking you how she is and so on. :3 Love is in the air, tralala~! -dances away from you-
Ryo+Drago | I agree on the Robin comment. She looks so freakin cool. *.*
Will | Get Real! is your friend. Learn it... love it. What are you two fighting in Akatsuki for anyway? You wanted to take over the place but what's he after?
Clone Cheating:: Maybe it needs to be written somewhere with rules and whatnot, but I was told many times that clones have to be referred to like clones. They can't be called by the individual's name unless the individual isn't present and it is stated in the techniques that the being is a clone. Both, not one or the other. Otherwise, the clone cannot be referred to as if it is the person in question. I don't remember who told me, but that's what I was told a long time ago. Anyone else hear that before or no?
-thinks- It's time for IT, boys and girls.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:45 pm
What clone cheating?
As far as what Kelli's saying:
What's the point of using a clone, if while using it you go "The bunshin clone attacks from the left, while Reaver attacks from the right. In hopes of confusing the opponent"
ANYONE no matter who they are will write their post so that they defend against you, and destroy the clone. It wont matter, because at a realistic standpoint, anyone fighting wants to get the least amount of damage possible, and deal the maximum to the opponent.
If we instate some rule that says "You must mention in post which is the clone, and which is yourself" it basically DESTROYS the entire point of a clone.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:00 pm
Kelli: I don't know what Oraj is fighting for. Not to die would be a good start though. I think he wants his Uchiha to lead Akatsuki though.
Dylan: Via that point, then Oraj's last post is invalid and clones become even more useless. If in post you have to make mention of what is the clone and what isn't then everyone is going to attack the real thing. Cause, and no offense to those that don't, most the people in this guild meta-game.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:05 pm
Grimace Works Drago | Yay! -glomps- Good luck, dear. I mean, good luck Drago. I hpe all goes well and I will soon be calling her your wife when asking you how she is and so on. :3 Love is in the air, tralala~! -dances away from you- Ryo+Drago | I agree on the Robin comment. She looks so freakin cool. *.* Will | Get Real! is your friend. Learn it... love it. What are you two fighting in Akatsuki for anyway? You wanted to take over the place but what's he after? Clone Cheating:: Maybe it needs to be written somewhere with rules and whatnot, but I was told many times that clones have to be referred to like clones. They can't be called by the individual's name unless the individual isn't present and it is stated in the techniques that the being is a clone. Both, not one or the other. Otherwise, the clone cannot be referred to as if it is the person in question. I don't remember who told me, but that's what I was told a long time ago. Anyone else hear that before or no? -thinks- It's time for IT, boys and girls. my wife?
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:32 pm
Grim- I don't remember anything quite that concrete, but I think I remember Damian saying he never once used his character's name on any part of a post that was his clones' actions. Like one paragraph for his own actions, then another for his clone's, which did not contain the character's name. Something like that?
Also, 'IT'?
But yeah, the clone versus meta is a tricky issue. Kind of like the Jutsu Shou, in that the only way to really balance it is to take away what makes it worthwhile. Are most of us honest enough to have our characters fall for a clone jutsu if it's indicated which is which. No, and I'm more likely than not included in that. Should we try? I think so. I know I'll be doing my part to avoid that little problem, and maybe others can too. Mostly the 'clone-cheating' thing that I don't like is when the RPer pulls a clone out of their tuckus. The 'it was a clone all along' when there was no sign of them being a clone, creating a clone, or anything, for the entire fight. A clone is a clone, meaning if you only gave it a little chakra, then anyone who can sense chakra will notice, and it will be weak as spit. Give it too much chakra, then when it tricks the opponent and gets smushed, you lose that chakra. (Of course, that's assuming you're honest about how much chakra you gave it, since you can't very well post the cost without again ruining the whole point of the clone...) I think if we could at least enforce that rule, that might fix the clone matter. But this was really just a side-rant on my part, so it's not my call if that problem is actually big enough to worry about.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:07 pm
Dylan | I get what you're saying and yes, it would defeat a lot of the point of having a clone in a battle; because people would make their rpc attack in a way where it would destroy the clone and the individual. But clones aren't supposed to be allowed to be used any kind of way. I'd rather there be that written somewhere or something different added for regular village clones than people using clones however they think they should be used. Because as it stands, there's nothing saying that people can't start out a battle as a clone without mentioning the creator being in the vicinity. There's nothing saying that someone can't use a clone from another village. Heck, there's nothing keeping people from sharing their chakra with clones instead of the chakra used to make the clone being what the clone has or it takes a portion from the user initially. You either have to watch the show to know how they really work or assume. I'm saying this for regular clones around the villages, by the way, not like your created clones. They have their own way of being used and guidelines. I'm talking about everyday clones from the Academy or villages. Maybe having that as a rule is a bit of a stretch, but maybe there could be some way to address the clones usage.
This isn't the first time clones became a problem in a fight and nothing could really be done. <.< Also, what I said is more for when people first post in a battle, have created a clone initially, or when a clone that had been created before the fight actually got underway is hiding out. Not really throughout the fight. But that's really just what I was told and figured was an unwritten thing. like the distance clones can travel from the owner and stuff.
Will | Ah, okay. He mentioned something about wanting to become Akatsuki leader. Guess he was really serious about the whole thing. Good luck to the two of you, I guess. :3
Drago | Yes, you're wife. Instead of calling them your girlfriend, I like calling my friend's significant other's their husband or wife. For some reason, the wife one gets the most reaction. Lol.
Hedoro | I don't think it was him, but that comment sounds like something involving a fight I'd like to read through. -nods- It was more someone saying it to me after I was a bit too vague with a clone. And when I mean IT, there's really nothing. I was just curious who would comment on it and wanted to add a bit of humor. xD
You pretty much summed everything up. I already typed all that blah so i'm still gonna post it. But you really said it best. And if someone else did what i mentioned and expressed using a clone, I would find any way I could to identify it as a clone in roleplay. Sad, but true. From there, if it's a really important fight, I'd do large scale or something. But in most cases, the clones aren't meant to last anyway. Not the regular village clones anyway. They're meant to get the opponent to do something you want or need. May it be buying time, distracting, or keeping them guessing, people don't based their fight on regular clones. And if people do rely on the clones, then I can sometimes be an assumer. >w<
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:09 pm
Honestly? If you leave a village, and go to another village. ANY TECHNIQUE used in the previous village should void. (Unless stated otherwise, or is passive)
So if I had some sort of taijutsu active, and I left Leaf and went to Sound. That technique should NEED to be activated again. As is common sense.
The same should imply with clones. So unless you were IN that village, and in one of your previous posts you put a clone up to wander the streets while you did your own thing. You shouldn't start as a clone period. I agree with that.
But any sort of other rule, unless it is clearly something that is obviously wrong. Shouldn't be made for the clones, otherwise everyone may as well just start the fight with the "Get Real!" technique...
If you NEED to start a fight with a clone, you're clearly in need of some help fighting anyways. In my opinion.
The true point of a clone; is to confuse the opponent and leave an opening.
If you read my and SoulofSchi's posts in Hidden Heaven. As crude as some of our posts may be; I thought that my use of the clone is how the clone SHOULD be used.
Not as a guinea pig to fight the opponent, and actually even TAKE hits during battle. EVERY clone dies after the first hit it takes, and most clones cant even use jutsu. I believe the Kage Bunshin(?) from Hidden Leaf, are the only ones that are jutsu capable. Although I could be wrong.
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