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 Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:37 pm
Ianex Binatica Why would it significantly own mechanicals? It wouldn't, thats what I meant to say. Like, anything non-mechanical is pretty much screwed if attacked by a Psionicist (sp?) As for the whole equivalent exchange thing, there isn't necessarily a huge backlash on ripping apart the cells of an opponents brain until they are simply retarded, and thus, what defense do you have other than to be mechanical, partially mechanical, or a psionicist yourself. Precision and concentration. There are things beyond human comprehension. For example, I sometimes dwell on the nature of computing at binary levels - every letter I type is thousands and thousands of electrical impulses firing all over my computer at speeds too fast for my brain to grasp, converting themselves up and down levels to interpret each other at utterly fantastic speeds. Overuse of psionics is like that - psionics on the level you're talking about take absolute focus and plenty of time just to wrap your mind around such small and uncountable things as atoms.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:39 pm
Ianex It wouldn't have to be precise splitting is the thing. A general wave of mental energy against any general area of the brain is going to $*@! up anyone with no defense against it. The mind is a fragile thing, especially the mind of the already ignorant.
@ Binatica: was that an agreement with my original point, or ?
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:40 pm
I just noticed the idiocy in the Ertai Fanclub is cranking up to extreme levels.
LOCKED.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:41 pm
Wow...yeah...sorry I just wasted several minutes of your life by agreeing with the initial statement and then making you repost it for no real reason.
And for stealing even more of your life via you reading this.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:43 pm
lol. No worries, Ianex. My time is pretty much wasted anyways...I'm posting here while waiting for a chance to spar with Deity some, and at the same time reading Ranma 1/2...musing on how goofy and stupid the manga is at times.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:45 pm
Clash Kiddick I just noticed the idiocy in the Ertai Fanclub is cranking up to extreme levels. LOCKED. DISREGARD THAT. WE LOVE THE LEADER.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:47 pm
When dealing with someone who uses fantastic abilities to fight you, you must be able to adapt and adopt the style to counter. As such, one must adopt a knowledge of psionics to be able to stand against Ertai. Psionics are not his only skill; however they are the most flexible and quickest way to commense a mass-killing short of a nuclear explosion (which I tend to use).
However, Ertai does not properly explain himself in every attack. He states what he is doing and how he is doing it but assumes that his targets have basic knowledge and reading comprehension to know what he's talking about. Many of his victims fall because they are too confused to know exactly what he's doing to them. There is what most of his skill lies in, confusion. Roleplaying skill in fight lies in strategy and ability to creatively react to specific situations. Ertai does not use strategy nor does he use creativety in his fights. He commonly uses the same set of abilities for the same effects and words things in such an articulate way (which does not make you a good author, in fact, it makes you far from a good author. Good authors don't make you grab a dictionary to know what they're talking about) that people are unable to distinguish his true actions.
In the event that someone is able to counter his psionic abilities with other psionic abilities, he will state that his mind is stronger and likewise wins. I think. At least, I've seen him do that once before. I have some tricky theories I've worked up in my head on how to place Ertai in positions of danger that would require his actual creativity but I won't touch upon any of them here.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:48 pm
If I had a year of my life to dedicate to manga I may read Ranma 1/2...until I realize that it is about a man, who turns into a woman (or vice-versa) and his family who all turn into weird things.
Heck, I may even watch the anime...until I realized the same thing, plus it was made by the people who did Inuyasha.
In my days of anime watching, I have only found two shows (that come to mind at the moment) where missing a single episode is so detrimental to your ability to follow the story that it becomes impossible to enjoy. THose two animes being .hacksign and Inuyasha.
But seriously...Ranma 1/2...isn't that anime like...612 episodes?
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:48 pm
Ianex Wow...yeah...sorry I just wasted several minutes of your life by agreeing with the initial statement and then making you repost it for no real reason. And for stealing even more of your life via you reading this. We're all here because we've got nothing better to do anyway.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:52 pm
Well, though I agree with you, Mydred, I can't really adopt a strategy with abilities I know I never gave my characters. Though my characters are masters of the few things they have trained, they are essentially ignorant to anything else they have not trained.
Thus, to me, it seems like cheating to suddenly give my characters abilities to counter what the enemy may be doing. So I guess in this case...the best defense is a good offense?
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:53 pm
The Mad Hatter Mydred As such, one must adopt a knowledge of psionics to be able to stand against Ertai. Psionics are not his only skill; however they are the most flexible and quickest way to commense a mass-killing short of a nuclear explosion (which I tend to use).
However, Ertai does not properly explain himself in every attack. He states what he is doing and how he is doing it but assumes that his targets have basic knowledge and reading comprehension to know what he's talking about. Many of his victims fall because they are too confused to know exactly what he's doing to them. There is what most of his skill lies in, confusion. Roleplaying skill in fight lies in strategy and ability to creatively react to specific situations. Ertai does not use strategy nor does he use creativety in his fights. He commonly uses the same set of abilities for the same effects and words things in such an articulate way (which does not make you a good author, in fact, it makes you far from a good author. Good authors don't make you grab a dictionary to know what they're talking about) that people are unable to distinguish his true actions.
In the event that someone is able to counter his psionic abilities with other psionic abilities, he will state that his mind is stronger and likewise wins. I think. At least, I've seen him do that once before. I have some tricky theories I've worked up in my head on how to place Ertai in positions of danger that would require his actual creativity but I won't touch upon any of them here. Additionally, Ertai assumes that everyone uses his mechanics for psionics. I use an extremely simple set of underlying mechanics which applies to the three trees of abilities (magic, psionics, tech). He, on the other hand, creates "paradoxes" that are not at all paradoxial by spreading mass destruction across the multiverse, which somehow grants him infinite power, at which point he does some s**t I don't bother to read with "psionic links" and then fires off a molecular destruction at the speed of light. And, yes, he does insist that his character is always more powerful than everyone else's. Psionic links mean nothing to me, psionics to me is the simple direction of energy through direct mental power. I've found a few ways to mess with him as well, but first we'll see how Dyne fares.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:55 pm
Ianex Well, though I agree with you, Mydred, I can't really adopt a strategy with abilities I know I never gave my characters. Though my characters are masters of the few things they have trained, they are essentially ignorant to anything else they have not trained. Thus, to me, it seems like cheating to suddenly give my characters abilities to counter what the enemy may be doing. So I guess in this case...the best defense is a good offense?
Unfortunately no, because without being able to defend against Ertai's first assault you will have no chance to commence a counter-attack. I do agree that adding abilities to your character mid-fight would be cheap though and likewise it puts many characters, (specifically 'gunslingers' and 'swordfighters',) at an extreme disadvantage. Ertai just happened to make his character with godly powers and I'm sure it will be his opinion that whether or not your character has the ability to realize and comprehend his attack is "not his problem."
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:58 pm
Hmm...is it considered cheap to enter a fight with various clones already in place...it seems like an equally cheap way to counter infinite power to say "Nuh uh! That wasn't the real one!"
Fight fire with childish fire.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:01 pm
Keeping in mind, that roleplaying a fight, especially in a tournament setting, is a very different experience than what I see psions doing. The easiest analogy is PvE (Player vs Enemy) as opposed to PvP (Player vs Player). I argue that psionics in a PvP setting is not creative, and not skillful, and not appropriate, for this reason. What skill is involved, (for everything doable has a skill level to it) lies within how you describe what you are doing with your enemy's mind/body. Unless you have tailored your character to counter this odd means of attack, you are virtually powerless. Thus, it ruins the point of the PvP battle entirely, in which both players describe attack and defense. I choose not to speak towards specific players, but rather towards the umbrella name for what many players use, because the constant repetition of blame on one person is annoying, especially when they like it. It doesn't address the issue that this method of roleplay has no place in a PvP battle, and even less in a sanctioned tournament. Essentially, fight fair, fight like a man, or give everyone the ability to have some psychic presence, enough to resist psionic attack. Kaminosai Having a reason to be overpowered doesn't mean it's okay to be overpowered. [paraphrased] Anonymooo "And thus spake the Great and Holy God of all that is Online RP, for he deemed the rabbits, and the anchovies, and the carp, and the sloths, and the planar psionicists to be unclean animals, not to be eaten nor associated with for fear that you too shall become unclean." "Don't be a ******** n00b." Anonymous I'm more here to fight, than anything else. How it gets done doesn't really matter, as long as fun was had.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:01 pm
On my honor right now, I swear that I will never, ever make a character with abilities made solely to match another. Not that it's a bad, wrong, or badong idea, it's just something that I personally won't do. xp
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