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 Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:00 pm
Ooh ooh
Take out my guild.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:01 pm
Monseiru X you know what'll be funny? at the end of all this, it won't be the supergods and the lords of chaos and uber plane destroyers who'll face each other in the last match. it'll be two joke characters.
i'm putting my bets on pikachu and akira mercuraki. Don't forget about my other joke characters in the Commerce.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:02 pm
Nah, I like your guild, Nightz. That one's there to stay.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:06 pm
Clash Kiddick Binatica rite because he's the only one who does that amirite? lol no, I'm waiting for you to take out Kiro's. Then move on to Seta's. I don't follow it, but it seems Donald's isn't anywhere to be found. I can't stomp Seta, he bans too much. He bans betrayal, "outrageous powers", future tech, psionics, severely limits NPCs and teleportation. I'm not just limiting my rampage to the Bloody Monday participants, either. Once I've crushed a guild or two, that's when it really gets fun. You have a guild?
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:08 pm
*reads* hooray, uber-bashing. Today's topic apparently returned to super-powered characters...
Other than that, did I miss anything good?
Post script- Just read Mael Vs. Tac...that's twice here that I've seen Maelthorn's match end like it did.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:10 pm
Trei_Shouri *reads* hooray, uber-bashing. Today's topic apparently returned to super-powered characters...
Other than that, did I miss anything good? Yeah introducing to my Commerce line-up besides Pikachu and Simba........ Pichu, Jigglypuff, and Raichu.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:12 pm
So...I guess...as I randomly jump into this conversation...I want to pose a question...
How does one go about explaining Psionic Aggression/Manipulation/Defense in any way without it seeming over powered?
Maybe I am just ignorant to it, but the way I see it, Psionic attacks are kind of...you know...death to anything non mechanical/partially mechanical. Or perhaps I view Psionics as something different?
Well...its kinda on topic about overpowered people...right?
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:19 pm
I don't see how banning betrayal is legit.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:19 pm
Dreslin Yeah introducing to my Commerce line-up besides Pikachu and Simba........ Pichu, Jigglypuff, and Raichu.
I dig it. xd
And, as to my own two cents on Psionics and the like; I really like FMA's concept of equivalent exchange... the stronger the ability, the heavier the backlash. In use of Magick, this means a higher drain of spiritual energy...in Psionics, I've always been under the influence it was viewed as stress on the brain. You wanna be able to rip the seams of reality? Go for it...if you can survive your brain being ripped apart by your own attack's backlash.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:23 pm
Ianex So...I guess...as I randomly jump into this conversation...I want to pose a question...
How does one go about explaining Psionic Aggression/Manipulation/Defense in any way without it seeming over powered?
Maybe I am just ignorant to it, but the way I see it, Psionic attacks are kind of...you know...death to anything non mechanical/partially mechanical. Or perhaps I view Psionics as something different?
Well...its kinda on topic about overpowered people...right? Why would it significantly own mechanicals? Clash Kiddick I don't see how banning betrayal is legit. Whether it is or not, people do. Seta Frost You shall remain loyal to your Lord, no-matter what the circumstances. IF you are caught betraying me in my kingdom, you merit an auto-death AND auto-ban.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:23 pm
Raven Yun You're serious? Only that strength of Spiderman with a standstill punch? If I'd known that, then Raven wouldn't have given a damn about getting hit by you. That would've made me so much less on the defensive with Brahm to begin with, and Raven wouldn't have thrown away his MasR, much less keep his distance from Brahm. ;_; The battle would've been done a frigging week ago if I knew THAT's how strong Brahm was at second and third gear... ._. Goddamnit. That's what I get for overestimating Brahm and not asking you his strength. Um.... your aware that spiderman is capable of tossing around upwards of like 2 tons right? At least that's how it was last I checked. If you can shrug off hits from strength like that, that's a pretty big clue the way your using your psionics is not the only thing that might need a little toning down. Also, dropping the rifle and such was probably the best thing you could do regardless, if only because it's better roleplaying. Sitting behind and invincible shield (immune to kinetic energy = immune to everything the universe, as i said) with a gun that fires "at the speed of light" and can destroy anyone in one hit? That's classic Munch/Powergame/Overpowered RPing right there man. Raven Yun On another note, Kaminosai, you were SAYING something about Ertai having a plausible reason for being able to DESTROY ENTIRE PLANES OF EXISTANCE by PICKING APART THE ATOMS around them? As Gel said, its not possible. Period. Even if a human was in use of 100% of their brain, I would find it impossible to not have your brain explode from individually singling out and destroying one atom out of trillions of billions of trillions of millions of billions of trillions of billions of atoms in a single plane of existance. And, you do have a point about Raven being far too overpowered with his psionics. I'm prolly going to completely remove those from his sheet after my battle with you, whether I win or not. Make him a plain old tech and melee character, with the best abilities in the first. That's what he was when I originally made him, but got so annoyed with all this uberpowerful magic and crap being thrown at him, pretty much instantly toasting his arse, that I had to use a counter. >_O Then I got corrupted by that power... /sobs heavily I MUST PRESERVE MY HONOR! *Seppeku!* I never said Ertai had a GOOD reason. I just said he had a reason. Honestly whether the reason is plausible or not has nothing to do with what i was saying. My point, was that an overpowered character is a bad character, and bad roleplaying, no matter how you dress it up. There's absolutely nothing to stop everyone from being another Ertai, aside from common sense and the willingness to let their opponent have a chance. Honestly though, the psionics Raven has themselves aren't really the problem, as much as the way you used them. If you took a few posts to "cook" up something that powerful, rather than just a snap of the fingers (figuretively speaking), then there'd be no problem. It's little things like that which easily make a strong character balanced.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:27 pm
Binatica Why would it significantly own mechanicals? It wouldn't, thats what I meant to say. Like, anything non-mechanical is pretty much screwed if attacked by a Psionicist (sp?) As for the whole equivalent exchange thing, there isn't necessarily a huge backlash on ripping apart the cells of an opponents brain until they are simply retarded, and thus, what defense do you have other than to be mechanical, partially mechanical, or a psionicist yourself.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:28 pm
Yes. Clash Kiddick Nah, I like your guild, Nightz. That one's there to stay. I meant, I'd like to see Ertai take it out, seeing as he'd get blasted pretty hard if he tried. It'd be like putting an amateur poet with the ego of ten Raw As War professional "wrestlers", into a 1959 Cadilliac, and then loading it into a WWII battleship cannon, aimed at a massive brick wall of reason. Then shooting it. Well, also we have a referee who could red card, if absoloutely nessecary. EDIT: Thanks, I like your tournament. =]
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:31 pm
I beg to differ. To split the cells in an opponent's brain would require a hell of a lot of precision. Traumatic force would be simpler.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:34 pm
Trei_Shouri I beg to differ. To split the cells in an opponent's brain would require a hell of a lot of precision. Traumatic force would be simpler. It wouldn't have to be precise splitting is the thing. A general wave of mental energy against any general area of the brain is going to $*@! up anyone with no defense against it. The mind is a fragile thing, especially the mind of the already ignorant.
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