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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:44 pm
Ngurethos MooMooJuice Ngurethos> We've only just met Karin, and the manga is not over. As far as I'm concerned there is PLENTY of time for Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo to get to know Sasuke, and each other, more. You talk like Sasuke can no longer have anymore friends. FRIENDS. NOT lovers. Karin may only love Sasuke now because of his looks or whatever ( And who's to say she doesn't love Sasuke for his flaws/personality? Heck, she seemed to be loyal to OROCHIMARU, of all people. ), but she CAN come to know him more and be a friend to him. JUST LIKE SAKURA DID. You hate Karin because she loves Sasuke for the wrong reasons ( As far as we can tell. ), but what about Sakura? She was the same way, but she changed. Why is it that you think Karin cannot? Like I said, we've only just met her, and how long did it take before you start noticing the change in Sakura's feelings? And what's this talk about bonds? Did anyone ever say Sasuke had to break his bonds to love someone else? Sasuke can have a circle of friends he loves, but fall in love with someone outside of this circle. And if these friends trulely loved him, they'd want him to be happy, and allow this new stranger in. Even if they become a little jealous for awhile. And before I end this post, I don't support SasuKari. I don't think it will ever happen within the manga, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. P.S. Sorry for the underlines and over use of capslock, I was trying to point out important points in my argument. >>;; Please don't compare Sakura and Karin like that. It's very disrespectful to Sakura. Sakura was TWELVE when she fell in love with Sasuke. At that age, all she wanted from him was maybe a hug, kiss, and to hold hands. She didn't know what love was, until she felt it for Sasuke, and learned the pwer of a first(and only)love. Karin? She's what, 20? She wants something COMPLETELY different then Sakura did. Karin wants either sex, power, or protection. Any of those ways she is USING Sasuke for her own will. And Sasuke isn't stupid. He will see right through that in a heartbeat. How can you say, that Karin can change? She doesn't have the childish innocences that Sakura did. She is a full grown WOMEN and shouldn't have a crush on anyone. I mean seriously. Grow up. <----(I mean Karin. Not you. sweatdrop ) At 20, you know what you want. You just need to get it. Sakura's love is innocent, while Karin's is decietful. And I beleive in Sasuke as a character to pick the someone(if he needs to) that loves him truely. I want to believe in him. I want to beleive in Kish. I, for one, joined this guild because it says "SasuSaku" at the top. I came here, because I thought that maybe here, I wouldn't have to keep defending my OTP. That I would be with people who are like me, and love SasuSaku the way I do. Maybe I was misinformed, as I have had to defend Sasusaku here more then anywhere else. And it gives me a headache. stare
When/Where/How was it confirmed that Karin was an adult? I'm not saying she's NOT twenty, or older, but it's very possible that she's younger.
Also, we haven't seen NEAR enough of Karin for you to go on with the assumptions you are making. The only person I've seen her deceiving is Suigetsu. Now it's possible (highly, actually) that Karin may be using Sasuke. But I'm not going to say she IS. Like said before: We haven't seen enough of her to make that conclusion.
Now, as someone who's been here since this guild was made, here's the deal:
You joined the "SasuSaku" guild. NOT the "Any Other Pairing Besides SasuSaku Can Go To Hell" guild. Everyone here likes SasuSaku, but it's their freedom to like SasuKarin, Karin, NaruSaku, or whatever they want as well.
You think you're defending SasuSaku, but the truth is I don't see anyone who's putting it down. What I think MooMoo is trying to get you to understand is that Karin has possibilities, just like Sakura has. It's perfectly fine if you don't like Karin, but to go around saying that you know Karin like the back or hand is, to be perfectly honest, pretty snotty. None of us know the exent of ANY character 100%. Why not? Because we didn't create them; Kishimoto did.
I am aware this is pretty bitchy sounding, but if you'd look at your own posts, I'd say you're being a bit too overconfident. You can like/hate whatever you'd like, but don't bring down others' ideas with facts that don't exist at the moment.
If you can't handle the idea that some people here may support Karin and SasuKarin, then you surely aren't the intelligent person I thought you were. 'You can't handle the heat, get out of the pot', as they say.
((And I'm NOT trying to offend you. I'm really not. But I really think you need to look at what others are telling you with a broader view of mind.))
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:48 pm
Ngurethos MooMooJuice Ngurethos> We've only just met Karin, and the manga is not over. As far as I'm concerned there is PLENTY of time for Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo to get to know Sasuke, and each other, more. You talk like Sasuke can no longer have anymore friends. FRIENDS. NOT lovers. Karin may only love Sasuke now because of his looks or whatever ( And who's to say she doesn't love Sasuke for his flaws/personality? Heck, she seemed to be loyal to OROCHIMARU, of all people. ), but she CAN come to know him more and be a friend to him. JUST LIKE SAKURA DID. You hate Karin because she loves Sasuke for the wrong reasons ( As far as we can tell. ), but what about Sakura? She was the same way, but she changed. Why is it that you think Karin cannot? Like I said, we've only just met her, and how long did it take before you start noticing the change in Sakura's feelings? And what's this talk about bonds? Did anyone ever say Sasuke had to break his bonds to love someone else? Sasuke can have a circle of friends he loves, but fall in love with someone outside of this circle. And if these friends trulely loved him, they'd want him to be happy, and allow this new stranger in. Even if they become a little jealous for awhile. And before I end this post, I don't support SasuKari. I don't think it will ever happen within the manga, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. P.S. Sorry for the underlines and over use of capslock, I was trying to point out important points in my argument. >>;; Please don't compare Sakura and Karin like that. It's very disrespectful to Sakura. Sakura was TWELVE when she fell in love with Sasuke. At that age, all she wanted from him was maybe a hug, kiss, and to hold hands. She didn't know what love was, until she felt it for Sasuke, and learned the pwer of a first(and only)love. Karin? She's what, 20? She wants something COMPLETELY different then Sakura did. Karin wants either sex, power, or protection. Any of those ways she is USING Sasuke for her own will. And Sasuke isn't stupid. He will see right through that in a heartbeat. How can you say, that Karin can change? She doesn't have the childish innocences that Sakura did. She is a full grown WOMEN and shouldn't have a crush on anyone. I mean seriously. Grow up. <----(I mean Karin. Not you. sweatdrop ) At 20, you know what you want. You just need to get it. Sakura's love is innocent, while Karin's is decietful. And I beleive in Sasuke as a character to pick the someone(if he needs to) that loves him truely. I want to believe in him. I want to beleive in Kish. I, for one, joined this guild because it says "SasuSaku" at the top. I came here, because I thought that maybe here, I wouldn't have to keep defending my OTP. That I would be with people who are like me, and love SasuSaku the way I do. Maybe I was misinformed, as I have had to defend Sasusaku here more then anywhere else. And it gives me a headache. stare Ngure-san, do you really feel that you have to defend SasuSaku more than anyone else? I mean, I know that alot of people in this guild are super dedicated to the couple and we all try the best we can to defend it (thats why theres a SasuSaku army, anyway) but I mean... gah. I'm sure that I'm a pretty big SasuSaku fan... I mean I love it to pieces. I really support the pairing because they just fit. But you have to defend it more than others? I mean, just because a new character comes around and another pairing rises up, doesn't mean we're gonna convert, yeah? I'm sorry if I'm not making sense, and I'm also sorry if I offended you in any way, but I was just worried, thats all sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:44 pm
Ngurethos MooMooJuice Ngurethos> We've only just met Karin, and the manga is not over. As far as I'm concerned there is PLENTY of time for Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo to get to know Sasuke, and each other, more. You talk like Sasuke can no longer have anymore friends. FRIENDS. NOT lovers. Karin may only love Sasuke now because of his looks or whatever ( And who's to say she doesn't love Sasuke for his flaws/personality? Heck, she seemed to be loyal to OROCHIMARU, of all people. ), but she CAN come to know him more and be a friend to him. JUST LIKE SAKURA DID. You hate Karin because she loves Sasuke for the wrong reasons ( As far as we can tell. ), but what about Sakura? She was the same way, but she changed. Why is it that you think Karin cannot? Like I said, we've only just met her, and how long did it take before you start noticing the change in Sakura's feelings? And what's this talk about bonds? Did anyone ever say Sasuke had to break his bonds to love someone else? Sasuke can have a circle of friends he loves, but fall in love with someone outside of this circle. And if these friends trulely loved him, they'd want him to be happy, and allow this new stranger in. Even if they become a little jealous for awhile. And before I end this post, I don't support SasuKari. I don't think it will ever happen within the manga, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. P.S. Sorry for the underlines and over use of capslock, I was trying to point out important points in my argument. >>;; Please don't compare Sakura and Karin like that. It's very disrespectful to Sakura. Sakura was TWELVE when she fell in love with Sasuke. At that age, all she wanted from him was maybe a hug, kiss, and to hold hands. She didn't know what love was, until she felt it for Sasuke, and learned the pwer of a first(and only)love. Karin? She's what, 20? She wants something COMPLETELY different then Sakura did. Karin wants either sex, power, or protection. Any of those ways she is USING Sasuke for her own will. And Sasuke isn't stupid. He will see right through that in a heartbeat. How can you say, that Karin can change? She doesn't have the childish innocences that Sakura did. She is a full grown WOMEN and shouldn't have a crush on anyone. I mean seriously. Grow up. <----(I mean Karin. Not you. sweatdrop ) At 20, you know what you want. You just need to get it. Sakura's love is innocent, while Karin's is decietful. And I beleive in Sasuke as a character to pick the someone(if he needs to) that loves him truely. I want to believe in him. I want to beleive in Kish. I, for one, joined this guild because it says "SasuSaku" at the top. I came here, because I thought that maybe here, I wouldn't have to keep defending my OTP. That I would be with people who are like me, and love SasuSaku the way I do. Maybe I was misinformed, as I have had to defend Sasusaku here more then anywhere else. And it gives me a headache. stare since Remy pretty much pointed out everything I wanted to say, I can only say this. I'm offended by the fact that you think you love SasuSaku more than anyone else here. Or atleast, that's the vibe I am getting with this. I love SasuSaku too. But I feel the need to defend any character who gets tossed aside like you're doing with Karin. That's just how I am. But you seem to keep taking it the wrong way, thinking I don't like SasuSaku that much. I DO. I LOVE THEM MORE THAN ANY OTHER PAIRING I HAVE EVER HELD AN INTEREST IN. But give Karin a CHANCE. As I said, how many chapters did it take for Sakura to show her true self? Karin has only been in about 5 chapters, and here you are bad mouthing her already. The poor girl has had no time to develope, her, or any of the other new characters. sad
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:51 pm
ur2troublesome: Please. Do NOT bash Karin. You may hate her but please don't bash her again here. A LOT of us here are Karin fans and it really annoys them.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:16 am
Don't Karin bash you guys. It doesn't do any good, and looks, well... stupid. If you dislike the character, by all means dislike them. I'm just saying keep your comments to yourself.
I mean, the reason you are bashing Karin is because she's a girl thats just been introduced who gets to spend a lot of time with Sasuke and has shown us that she likes Sasuke.
Based on those reasons, bashing Karin in this guild looks stupid.
But if you hate her, don't publicise it. It is very unneccessary and a lot of people in this guild love Karin, so its irritating for us.
Karin poses a "threat" maybe, but we really dont know enough about the poor girl to judge her, let alone bash her.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:42 am
She's just like Sakura when she was 12: Trying to get alone with her crush Sasuke.
Even if that means getting rid of the annoyance: Suigetsu.
If anything is gonna happen, I'd say it's a regular Team 7 reaction. biggrin
And please, don't bash characters that you hate. It makes you look.. Well, un-intelligent. It makes this guild look stupid to bash others.
.... Maybe we should make a motto that EVERYONE in this guild should follow.. I just can't think of one...
Anyways, back on track. Some of the girls hate other girls so they spread lies and make friends deceive friends. How does this apply? It might make the guild take sides, therefore destroying the hard work of teamwork.
United we stand, Divided we fall!
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:48 am
I don't really care about Karin. She annoys me mildly, and I find her hair hilarious (My friend Dys said she looked like her head had been run over by a lawnmower) but I don't hate her.
I find no reason to hate her, seeing as she hardly has any character development in my mind so far.
On the SasuKari thing- I don't think she poses a threat. At all. Because she has no chance with Sasuke, since if he didn't accept a girl who loved him and would do anything for him, it makes no sense he would go for a fangirl.
So overall, my opinion of her is one of mild annoyance.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:35 am
Ruingaraf I don't really care about Karin. She annoys me mildly, and I find her hair hilarious (My friend Dys said she looked like her head had been run over by a lawnmower) but I don't hate her. I find no reason to hate her, seeing as she hardly has any character development in my mind so far. On the SasuKari thing- I don't think she poses a threat. At all. Because she has no chance with Sasuke, since if he didn't accept a girl who loved him and would do anything for him, it makes no sense he would go for a fangirl. So overall, my opinion of her is one of mild annoyance.
I think it's understandable for people to not like Karin. I mean, she IS underdeveloped as of now, and I mean, I dispised Sakura before she was developed. Of course, Sakura and Karin are different, so that's probably why I love Karin as she was introduced and Sakura only after the F.o.D. ark.
Opinion repsected, and I'm glad you can go about this without acting like an uncivilized banshee.
ur2troublesome: For YOU, on the other hand. I find your post about Karin childish, offensive, and flat out STUPID. We've said in this guild not to bash HOW MANY TIMES? And you are still going to stay something as low as that. ...I VERY highly recommend you read the guild rules and follow them, or you won't last very long in this guild at all.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:10 am
I don't like her nor do I hate her.
I'm in the middle mostly.
but seriously, if really really don't like somebody
just keep that fun fact to yourself to avoide getting yelled at xP
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:00 am
ur2troublesome i mean sure sasuke-kun's really attractive and all but i mean, she made suigetsu lost so that she could have him... I think she made Suigetsu lost because she hates him [Suigetsu]. It seems alot of Kari haters assume her hate for Suigetsu has to do with her love for Sasuke. But the way I see it, she hates Suigetsu for other reasons, seeing as they've said to have known each other for a while now ( before sasuke? ), and they've only [just] met Sasuke together. Doesn't make much sense for Karin to hate Suigetsu for so long ( even before they journey with Sasuke together ) because she wants Sasuke to herself. And let's not forget Juugo. Has she shown any hate for him? What i'm trying to get at is, sure, one reason Karin may hate Suigetsu is because of Sasuke ( Who's to say? ), but it's plain to see that it's not the only reason. Besides, look at that scene you mentioned, again. After leading Suigetsu away, Karin takes Sasuke RIGHT to Juugo. She doesn't sit and flirt with him. I think this is good proof she is not a slut or whore, she simply hates Suigetsu guts. Sasuke or no. ( I hope my reasons make sense, I had trouble expressing what I wanted to say. >< )
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:13 am
Remedi Ruingaraf I don't really care about Karin. She annoys me mildly, and I find her hair hilarious (My friend Dys said she looked like her head had been run over by a lawnmower) but I don't hate her. I find no reason to hate her, seeing as she hardly has any character development in my mind so far. On the SasuKari thing- I don't think she poses a threat. At all. Because she has no chance with Sasuke, since if he didn't accept a girl who loved him and would do anything for him, it makes no sense he would go for a fangirl. So overall, my opinion of her is one of mild annoyance.
I think it's understandable for people to not like Karin. I mean, she IS underdeveloped as of now, and I mean, I dispised Sakura before she was developed. Of course, Sakura and Karin are different, so that's probably why I love Karin as she was introduced and Sakura only after the F.o.D. ark.
Opinion repsected, and I'm glad you can go about this without acting like an uncivilized banshee.
ur2troublesome: For YOU, on the other hand. I find your post about Karin childish, offensive, and flat out STUPID. We've said in this guild not to bash HOW MANY TIMES? And you are still going to stay something as low as that. ...I VERY highly recommend you read the guild rules and follow them, or you won't last very long in this guild at all. Trust me, you'd know if I had a strong opinion.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:03 am
Hm...I have been reading this little conversation. But, hey. Im not going to get involved :]
Anyways, what do you think happened between Sasuke and Karin? Im not sure what it was...
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:39 pm
chibisuace Hm...I have been reading this little conversation. But, hey. Im not going to get involved :]
Anyways, what do you think happened between Sasuke and Karin? Im not sure what it was... My answer was that Karin stole his underwear and high off it. People seem to be amused by this answer. xd
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:23 pm
Ruingaraf chibisuace Hm...I have been reading this little conversation. But, hey. Im not going to get involved :]
Anyways, what do you think happened between Sasuke and Karin? Im not sure what it was... My answer was that Karin stole his underwear and high off it. People seem to be amused by this answer. xd
*SHOT*
No really, humourously, I like to say that she raped him, but realistically she probably experimented on him, or maybe even randomly kissed him. (Not that I agree with this idea, but the fact that it was stated after Suigetsu said she wanted to be with Sasuke makes it possible.)
It doesn't really matter to me what she did. I love her, and I love Sasuke, and I like SasuKari, but I ship SasuSaku (until the day I die!).
So with me being not worried about it, I love to make fun of it. <3
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