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Who stronger and how! |
Brolly |
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Kid Buu |
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Thats a hard one I dont know. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:50 pm
Kamikazek-Z ^Maybe. There's actualy a good chance that Buu got his transforming antena powers from when he absorbed the great lord of worlds(which turned him into fat Buu), since kid Buu never actualy uses said power. No Buu still has that magic. The word "Majin" Means evil genie and in the flashbacks they say Buu was an magical creation. And remember Evil buu uses it and he doesn't have the kais in him.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:03 pm
The Fierce Deity The liklihood of Buu using it in battle might also be up for debate, seeing as he only used it the once, and never tried to avoid a move with it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:41 pm
@Kami & Koju: It likely wouldn't work....it has been shown that a great enough deal of power results in the would-be helpless candy still having control over themselves. Even if Brolly isn't strong enough to do such, it has also been shown that avoiding the technique isn't hard at all. Evil Buu simply blew it back at Mr. Buu, and Chibi Buu just hopped over it....Deity doesn't see how it'd be useful against Brolly... /=;
@Reaper: ...uhhm. < <;Deity The liklihood of Buu using it in battle might also be up for debate, seeing as he only used it the once, and never tried to avoid a move with it. Then again, that could just be chalked up to his overconfidence....dunno. ::shrug:: ...either way, he can still do it, so it'd depend on the situation, Deity assumes. ...so, again...Once more with feeling, Deity ...also, just to let everyone know something - Brolly does not have a galaxy-wrecking move. As a recent-watcher of Movie #8, Deity can see that there's no instance in which Brolly throws an attack that destroys a galaxy....the closest thing to it is when he blasts planet Shamo to oblivion with a simple ki orb.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:45 pm
The Fierce Deity @Kami & Koju: It likely wouldn't work....it has been shown that a great enough deal of power results in the would-be helpless candy still having control over themselves. Even if Brolly isn't strong enough to do such, it has also been shown that avoiding the technique isn't hard at all. Evil Buu simply blew it back at Mr. Buu, and Chibi Buu just hopped over it....Deity doesn't see how it'd be useful against Brolly... /=;
@Reaper: ...uhhm. < <;Deity The liklihood of Buu using it in battle might also be up for debate, seeing as he only used it the once, and never tried to avoid a move with it. Then again, that could just be chalked up to his overconfidence....dunno. ::shrug:: ...either way, he can still do it, so it'd depend on the situation, Deity assumes. ...so, again...Once more with feeling, Deity ...also, just to let everyone know something - Brolly does not have a galaxy-wrecking movie. As a recent-watcher of Movie #8, Deity can see that there's no instance in which Brolly throws an attack that destroys a galaxy....the closest thing to it is when he blasts planet Shamo to oblivion with a simple ki orb. That was not a planit you seen there. that was the star that there planit was moving around, indeed he did not blow there planit up but the sun that there planit happen to be moving around, it was the Nova created from the blast that took out there planit.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:55 pm
.....uhh, no. They look up and see the big sphere as Brolly throws his attack, and one of them says,"...Planet Shamo..." ...and then it gets ******** up. That was the planet, not the star...nothing implies that it was anything but the planet Shamo. Why would Brolly aim at the star anyway? That's like throwing a nuclear missile at the gas station next to a general store so the store will be destroyed by the explosion of the gas station. o 0;; It's redundant.
...besides, a big hint that it wasn't a star is that it wasn't glowing. Stars tend to do that. You know, being balls of burning gas and all that mess... . =;;
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:30 am
The Fierce Deity @Kami & Koju: It likely wouldn't work....it has been shown that a great enough deal of power results in the would-be helpless candy still having control over themselves. Even if Brolly isn't strong enough to do such, it has also been shown that avoiding the technique isn't hard at all. Evil Buu simply blew it back at Mr. Buu, and Chibi Buu just hopped over it....Deity doesn't see how it'd be useful against Brolly... /=;
Yes, but to date only Buus have shown the ability to reflect the Henkai beam. Sure Brolly could dodge it.....if he knew what it was and was fast enough to do so. But he doesn't know anything about Chibi Buu and I doubt he's fast enough to successfully dodge it if it's suddenly sprung on him.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:45 am
Deity can see your point on Brolly possibly being unable to deflect the magic beam, but dodging is hardly a problem. The beam is never shown to be particularly faster than anything else, and Chibi Buu didn't do anything flashy to avoid it...there's no reason to assume someone else couldn't do the same.
That said, Brolly isn't as fast as Chibi Buu, but he is by no means slow at all. He displayed speed superior to that of anyone he fought in Movie #8, which included Piccolo, SSJ Stage 2 Vegeta and Trunks, and Full Power SSJ Son and Gohan. Seeing as he is likely only somewhat weaker ki-wise than Chibi Buu at first, we can assume that he is only somewhat slower, as well.
Also, Brolly tends to dodge some moves while taking others head-on, knowing he'll remain unharmed...for instance, he lets Son fire his charged Kamehameha point-blank - which does absolutely nothing - but deftly avoids attacks from Piccolo and Son when they rush him. So he has the speed to dodge, and has no reason not to dodge.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:39 am
The Fierce Deity ...also, just to let everyone know something - Brolly does not have a galaxy-wrecking move. As a recent-watcher of Movie #8, Deity can see that there's no instance in which Brolly throws an attack that destroys a galaxy....the closest thing to it is when he blasts planet Shamo to oblivion with a simple ki orb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVSbgqPouHU(Watch the first 20 seconds of the video) We don't directly see his attack, but after witnessing such a formation vanish in a matter of seconds, along with the narrator saying "The South Galaxy has been shattered . . . by a Super Saiyan", I'm convinced that he could bust a galaxy.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:21 am
::already said he just watched the movie::
Later in the movie, Kaio-sama sends Son to the supposedly-destroyed Southern Galaxy to investigate the situation and track the LSSJ down. Deity thinks he caught mention of New Vegeta being located there, too, but he's not positive... . =;;
...either way, no. If Brolly could actually blow a galaxy away, there would be nothing for Son to search through, and we do see him on a destroyed planet that is still very much intact. Deity thinks 'shattered' or 'destroyed' is basically their way of saying that Brolly has totally wrecked face and has demolished everyone and everything in the Southern Galaxy - not the galaxy itself.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:53 am
Ah, now I feel like slapping myself on the head. For some reason I thought that North Kai sent him to a close location, but not the actual galaxy. My mistake, and it's fair game now.
Just a thought . . . would it be fair to put Broly at the Solar System-busting level? Seeing as he effortlessly took out one planet, wiping out a solar system doesn't seem like such a difficult task.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:05 am
Wiping a solar system out would probably be easy for Brolly, yeah...if Cell wasn't boasting without anything to back his claim, and really was capable of taking out Earth's system, then Brolly - who is stronger than Cell - should be able to as well. If one charged ki orb can take out a planet, one can only imagine what that ******** ki ball at the end of Movie #10 could've done had it hit Earth... > >;
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:23 pm
Well maybe he didn't blow the whole galaxy away but he proboally wiped out alot of planets in his whole destroying things. So what level would you put kid buu on? He is defently solar system busting because he almost blew up earth with a little ki blast if not for Vegeta. Also, Broly has a weak spot correct? That scar and from the fight buu had with Vegeta, Buu likes to punch near where Broly's scar wouldv'e been or the same general area. I don't know, It's kinda hard they both are my favorites.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:31 pm
I'd like to put on the table that Cell really meant he'd destroy the sun with his Kamehameha wave and thus destroy the solar system either when the star went supernova or when it's planets went flying into space after the sudden loss of gravity and not that he meant he could wipe it out with a huge wave of Ki.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:34 pm
The `Reaper Man` I'd like to put on the table that Cell really meant he'd destroy the sun with his Kamehameha wave and thus destroy the solar system either when the star went supernova or when it's planets went flying into space after the sudden loss of gravity and not that he meant he could wipe it out with a huge wave of Ki. Thank you Akira Toriyama; I'm glad you could enlighten us and tell us exactly what you mean. Next time, don't make it so ambiguous... stare Now, to be a tad more serious...proof? I am interested to see you provide a scrap of cannonical evidence to back up your claim.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:40 pm
rikeen90 The `Reaper Man` I'd like to put on the table that Cell really meant he'd destroy the sun with his Kamehameha wave and thus destroy the solar system either when the star went supernova or when it's planets went flying into space after the sudden loss of gravity and not that he meant he could wipe it out with a huge wave of Ki. Thank you Akira Toriyama; I'm glad you could enlighten us and tell us exactly what you mean. Next time, don't make it so ambiguous... stare Now, to be a tad more serious...proof? I am interested to see you provide a scrap of cannonical evidence to back up your claim. Seeing as until Buu blew up the Earth everyone else (Freeza) blew up planets with a core disruptor and no other way was ever shown in the series. And name me one instance a blast larger then a planet (which would be necessary to destroy a solar system in one go) has ever been seen in DBZ?
Quick answer to your question.....it's fricking ambiguous damn it! I'm trying to give a reasonable explanation |
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