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 Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:18 pm
Listen carefully, Greater demons have 4+ invulnerable saves, the Khornate greater demon has a 3 normal save and a 4+ invulnerable, normal demons have a 5+ invulnerable, khorne bloodletters have a 3 normal and 5+ invulnerable, and all mortals who buy the Daemonic aura gift have a 5+ invulnerable plus their normal armor.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:27 pm
Ok, thanks for clairifying. Still, though, that means that the Avatar is getting ripped off with his crapy save because it specifically says that although he is an Eldar unit, he is considered a deamon for all intents and purposes.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:29 pm
Greater or normal, if normal, would mean he/she/it needs to be summoned, if greater, need to have possess a model.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:33 pm
Quoted form the Eldar Codex:
"Daemon: To all intents and purposes, an Avatar is a Daemon and will be affected by weapons or abilities that use speacial rules against Daemons."
So he doesn't have to be summoned (or get the privlage to, however you look at it) but he gets all the downsides of being a daemon.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:34 pm
Faeruithir Quoted form the Eldar Codex: " Daemon: To all intents and purposes, an Avatar is a Daemon and will be affected by weapons or abilities that use speacial rules against Daemons." So he doesn't have to be summoned (or get the privlage to, however you look at it) but he gets all the downsides of being a daemon. Face it; even with allo these downsides, he's a damn good model for 80 points.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:38 pm
DarkElf27 Faeruithir Quoted form the Eldar Codex: " Daemon: To all intents and purposes, an Avatar is a Daemon and will be affected by weapons or abilities that use speacial rules against Daemons." So he doesn't have to be summoned (or get the privlage to, however you look at it) but he gets all the downsides of being a daemon. Face it; even with allo these downsides, he's a damn good model for 80 points. Wow....it may sound silly, but I never thought of it that way. That does shine a new light on him now....
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:39 pm
Faeruithir DarkElf27 Faeruithir Quoted form the Eldar Codex: " Daemon: To all intents and purposes, an Avatar is a Daemon and will be affected by weapons or abilities that use speacial rules against Daemons." So he doesn't have to be summoned (or get the privlage to, however you look at it) but he gets all the downsides of being a daemon. Face it; even with allo these downsides, he's a damn good model for 80 points. Wow....it may sound silly, but I never thought of it that way. That does shine a new light on him now.... Glad you see it that way. I mean, how many points do the greater deamons cost? 200-300 maybe?
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:45 pm
Here are the costs and stats
Bloodthirster 205 pts, WS9 BS0 S8 T6 W4 I4 A5 LD10 SV3/4+
Great Unclean One 150pts, WS5 BS3 S7 T6 W6 I2 A3 LD10 SV-/4+
Lord of Change 160pts, WS8 BS4 S6 T6 W4 I6 A3 LD10 SV-/4+
Keeper of Secrets 160pts, WS7 BS3 S7 T6 W4 I4 A5 LD10 SV-/4+
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:46 pm
Exactly. the avatar has alot of the same or similar stats, and is less thsan half the points cost.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:50 pm
Still, WS9 S8 with 5 attacks for the Bloodthirster is pretty tough
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:53 pm
sephirothclone000 Still, WS9 S8 with 5 attacks for the Bloodthirster is pretty tough yeah, and 205 points is alot too. I g2g to another guild, i'll be back later ((Im running ther Apocalyptic Void for a while, the owner went on vacation))
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:58 pm
sephirothclone000 Plus, I have no psykers in my chaos army, so no benefits to Demon Hunters(or witch hunters, i forgot) Uh, Daemonhunters get no beneficial pluses against psykers. They get bonuses when fighting daemons. Which does include the avatar I might add! biggrin
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:26 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:45 am
A craftword very close to the eye of terror.
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:31 am
i got a question about Phonix Lords are they lord choices or just replacements for warlocks in each squad?
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