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it's certainly not accepted for women to learn gemara (that counts for alot. torah lo b'shemayim hi). although they don't have the obligation that men do (technically, every waking moment), i'm not sure if it's outright forbidden.

but it's stupid. there are just so much more important things.

but, then again, i'm sure you're rabbi knows more than i do.

I'll see if I can get Cindy to dedicate a subforum for Jewish articles and dictionaries... But maybe Just a sticky would do?... We'll see... sweatdrop

I guess I'll move this thread to the new subforum, if nobody has any objections? If so, feel free to say so: it's quite easy to move threads between subforums. 3nodding

1) Even if he doesn't pissed off, it isn't proper to call him like that, because he may not show that he is pissed off to you, but in the inside, he is raging like a volcano.

2) Well, we need to know the mitsvas, and we also have to do them, but I don't HAVE to memorize them all. It'll be stupid to try, not because it isn't good to know them, but because it'll be better to learn HOW to do them, first.

You're probably talking about the rotzeah bishgaga. Someone that killed unintentionally, the family members of the victim can kill him if he doesn't reach shelter in time.

ok, so i actually took the time to check up the whole "women and learning torah issue"..... xp

the single most important difference between men and women concerning learning torah is that men have an obligation to do so "all the days and nights of your life", whereas women have no such chiuv (obligation-responsibility). now, since there is greater schus (merit, reward) in doing something one is obligated to do, rather than something one is putar (negation of chiuv (both are possesive forms, if anyone cares)) from (a classic example is the debate in gemara whether it is more meritous for a child to do something his father asked him to do, or do that same thing without his father's asking. the conclusion follows the former.), and women are chiav in many other things, those other things take precedence over learning torah. men, however, are obligated to study torah in one way or another every second of their waking lives (there's a fun gemara on that). so, in essence, it isn't that women shouldn't be learning torah, it's that, for them at least, there are other things more important.

aside from that, the only thing against women learning torah (and by "learning torah", i mean studying gemara, torah sh'baal peh and related topics, which require quite a bit of time. in fact, in more orthadox circles of education, girls are taught a considerable amount of written torah, but nevertheless not gemara, etc) is the fact that it's not really the "minhag sh'b'klal yisroel", meaning, it's not really the tradition of the nation as a whole.

in conclusion, all above is an elaboration of what i already stated, with the exception of the clarification of what "learning torah" means in this context.

for questions and assistance, consult your local orthadox rabbi.

Jews dont' have to make a pilgrimage to israel do they?
I mean it's just suggested right question ninja

HA I WAS RIGHT TAKE THAT MRS. BIEBER!!!!

::does a happy dance::

oh yea go me do the happy dance people ::happy dance::

okay so the story behidn this, we were reading the story about all the gay a** pilgrims coming over and being all jesus obessed you know. and my teacher was like "no does anyone else know stuff that you have to pilgrimage too"

you know you had the stupid people saying the mall, the half intellagent ones saying islam and stuff. Then we had the sutpid kid whom thinks he's smart and he said "don't the jews have to go that one weird wall thing like w. something?" and then this other kid was like "George W. Bush Wall" and I was like thinking stare "If only the jew guild was here they'd be all awsome and everything.. THEN I'D GIVE THEM ALL COOKIES! 4laugh "
Anywho I was like all snappy that day and i was like "No they don't you dumb a**, they are just reccomended to go." Then I almost added "Like I recomend you to get an education" lol but I didn't say that. So then my teacher was "Well I don't know christina and (whatever his name is like brent or something) I'll ask Mrs. Smith" (whom is a bad person to be a jew I doubt she's obeservant, she's such a stuck up rich snobby chick. so not cool liek all you guys)... I think she was the one that wore a cross th school that her husband gave her, but she defended herself by saying "but it's made out of dimonds and gold" .. gah if i ever do that someone smakc me really really really hard so i forgot who i am. please. ninja