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if you mean "can Noire cut a large metallic vehicle in half with a wooden stick" by twilight Suzuka, lemme check.

it's looking like the base bonus damage from the katana is +7, adding to his pathetic strength of 7, so 14. It then goes on to say his lethal strike technique increases the damage 25 fold, his honor by +50% and his style multiples the whole effect an hundred fold... which puts the total at 32 with a cap of 41, which is about 7 kills in Mekton Zeta before modifiers..which is a game about 50 ton metallic robots..it goes on to say his unarmed damage in that system is 3 kills, so unless the Mecha armor is highly resistant to AP, apparently he could eventually reduce a tank to scrap.

But I never jotted down the Bokuto. It's cocobolo so that's basically a +1 to whatever a wooden club would do. He normally uses purple heart. You'll see purple heart is a better wood for bokken.
http://www.zaimoku.org/home/woods-that-can-make-acceptable-to-very-good-high-impact-weapons-albeit-with-one-or-more-deficiencies/

http://www.zaimoku.org/home/not-suitable-for-high-impact-practice/


So maybe +1-2 with an increased chance of breaking with lateral blocks. Now i just need a base damage to stick that on, though i can tell right off the bat it will be a number between 3 kills and 7 kills. OK, I'm looking
http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/maze/3998/weapons.htm
and it looks like a reasonable +3-4 would be about correct. A suburito would be the same as a giant club, or +4, and an iron wood of the same perhaps +5.

So let's be conservative, +3, instead of +7, is 4 less than 32/41, so 28/41, but the cap on the weapon before it breaks is lower, 18 vs. 22, so 4 less, so 41 - 4 = 37, and verses lateral (cruciform weapon breaking blows) 2 less because its cocobolo and cracks easier but rings like metal... 35-36
Total is 28/36 to 29/35 (more damage would have a higher damage cap and be more likely to fail for being brittle.)

So thats what weapon on the table? Ah, here we go:
75mm to 122mm Tank Gun.

75mm pak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7fhBm1ouSU

122mm howitzer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0kvVwkGUJU

As base damage... I mean, I could roll bad.

But if you want me to put the stick down. totes. I can do that. You want non lethal? That i can do too. Drops the scale 7 points to something more reasonable, like 21 with stick, and 19 unarmed (sans a 2 hour morning prayer for a strength buff)

19, unarmed: Says .30-06 springfield rifle. Neat.. I used to have one of those.
21, cocobolo: Well, it says elephant gun, but it also has some assault rifles listed... so im not sure how they were doing their calculations.. probably including automatic rate of fire or just liked some weapons more than others.

OK, this is what i think. if he goes non lethal it will only be like being shot in the face with a war rifle. Is that sufficient or does he need to hold back more?

And then there is the question of impetus.

I mentioned Suzuki thinking of that as a special power attack not the base damage of every hit. As a character Max doesn't know what he's going into. He's going to try his best even if it's useless. He will face a challenge, like Wulf, even when his own mistakes made it a strategic loss.

But I'm not Max. I as an author don't have the same motivations. I can't see myself writing about Max versus a man who's basically living heavy artillery. There's nothing wrong it Noire. That's just me. It's a pointless battle. That makes it pointless to write.

Even if Noire holds back any measure of success Max gets isnt really earned, is just because Noire allowed it. Even a victory would be just a participation award. And at any point he could just turn the dial up a few notches and obliterate Max.

And thats a wooden weapon. Realistically the force and power comes from Noire not just the bokken. I can only imagine the numbers for his fists. Which I another point in and of itself. Max doesn't have numbers. He's just a free form RP character with limitations based on the story I want to tell. I don't want him to be the guy who can go toe to toe with power like that. I don't want his punches to be near that strong or his body to be as tough as military grade armor. It's not my style of writing. I could throw him against an opponent like this at the end of some long plot arc for dramatic effect. But for a contest? A random encounter? That's too much work for simple match. It just... doesn't make for an interest story to me. It's not one I want to write.

Again, that's personal taste. It's not a criticism of you or your character or your stat system. We're just using two different styles here. I'm afraid I'm going to have to withdraw from the challenge. You can take the win. I'm sorry for the time I wasted.

-signs in, checks orange flag, backreads, nods at events-

Oh, Maxi, I wanted to like... let you know how Lazenca tracked him. I know I play some things close to the chest, getting out of explaining everything unless prompted by a judge or something. Maxi-char's mild wondering was in the right direction.

Scent, at that speed, wouldn't be that reliable. If the match was still as slow as it had started and they gave each other time to do things then yeah, Max could've been getting hunted. Despite his being silent, Lazenca could still hear him. To be precise, he could hear the ice under Maxi. It was really coincidental and lucky, and had Lazenca not been able to create a cold zone then he would've lost Max and lost to him quickly. The mat had been noted as frozen enough to crunch when Lazenca walked, and whenever Max moved, that's what Lazenca listened for-- Max himself could be dead silent but unless his properties shifted so that he was incorpreal, his affect on the frost around him could be heard.

That's why Laz's opening move was "block in this direction with both arms up," because other than the one time, he didn't know which direction the attack was coming from, and was relying on his countering to keep Max close, and eliminate the need to search for him.

My god that movie...

...is it bad I remember that movie on VHS? My uncle had it. Did you know they're making a remake with Sam Jackson as the bad guy?

I totally understand where your coming from. Leveling up almost puts a sort of weight to the characters advancements. Like a DnD game when you finally hit epic level and you look back at all the accomplishments that brought you there. I can totally understand and more than that, appreciate it. Not to steal the Disney motto, but diversity and difference in RP does breed creativity and that's good.

You know back in the day there was this meeting, back when we had a guild and they people were sent to different threads to try and "recruit" new blood into our little community. I didnt do that. I wanted to see new places and during that time I went to the Lubu. This was over ten years ago mind you. Before HoH before all that stuff when people were just people in threads. I really liked Lubu. I fought someone, but I for the life of me cant remember who because it's legitimately been over 10 years. But it was a good time. And I could see you were a good group.

Now, in our little group someone got the idea that their character just wasnt unique enough. I cant remember who did it first. So in order to make it more unique, they decided to just dig into a completely different mythos and make themsevles the incarnation a some norse god. I cant remember who did it first. But before you know it we had Thor, and Loki, Fenir, the list goes on. All these original ideas we once had became these terrible cliches. There was no point in it. I'm not going to lie, it put a terrible taste in my mouth. To this day Max hates gods and the divine or just that power tier in general. He's the nicest person in the world and them someone says they have divine blood and his smile becomes a scowl like they just confessed to stealing from old people. But that's neither here nor there. Godhood eventually fed egos, then it became a matter of who was the best and not the stories we were all telling and I lost my taste for the game in general and left for years.

I like the story. I always felt a fight was a good way to tell a small action filled story. Winning didnt matter. Focusing on that cheapened the effect and detracted from the story. Honestly my friend, I dont think fighting me would be an honor. I havent been in the fight game for a while. I'm rusty and sloppy. Max put up a good fight but twice there I called my own move the wrong name. If you wanted a good quality match then someone like my man X here is going to be able to give you that. I know that first hand. I've known him for years, and he's a solid guy and been one for the whole time I've known him.

Me? I'll tell you what interests me. Honestly, Max doesnt know any avatars of multi-planar beings who are also skilled in kenjutsu. I'd much rather the two have a conversation. Share stories about adventures across different planes. Noire can teach Max how to katanaman. He wants desperately to learn how to katanaman. 'Katanaman' is a joke because Max himself knows so little of asian culture and didnt know what a samurai was so that's what he called it. Like a Swordsman. He barely knows what a Japan is. But then again Max barely knows what a cell phone is. He once chased a blind man around a city convinced that because the city was like a small Chinatown that everyone had to be a martial arts master and the old man with the cane was a master swordsman. Thats what he read online. Turns out the old man was, but that's another story. I love stories. Better than a fight, I can maybe give you a good story. Or at the very least a funny story. That, I'm good at. And that, would be an honor to do. It would by my honor.



Gah! I was so close to guessing it!

Personally I thought it was the ice itself! It was mentioned that Laz was making a sort of cold feedback loop so I thought he could maybe tangibly feel through the ice so it was like Max was stepping on a second skin. But with the way you worded Laz's block that makes perfect sense, that's genius! Even on a strategic level thats awesome, if the fight went on longer then despite injuries and a number of things requiring his focus he'd be wasting focus or blowing opportunities thinking he needs to stay stealthy when you had him zeroed in, its perfect!

Honestly, while I have you here I want to thank you. That was an awesome match and I want to thank you for agreeing to it and having it with me!

The feedback loop was so that there was enough cold around that it fit the definition of what I call a Cold Zone, where the elemental properties in the area are clearly tilted to a specific element and are sufficient enough for easier, or simply more comfortable actions. Fire Zones force Laz to work double as he has to keep himself cold just so he's not annoyed; he doesn't take passive fire damage but he's full-on defensive with his cold, using it as an inch-thick layer against the elements. For it, he likely won't use any aural attacks, unless he has time to Ante Up (charge the super bar). For my classification, your darkening the area made it a Dark Zone as well, which also forced heavy defense because of the idea that an attack could very well come from anywhere he can't see.

I don't believe that it'd be a perfect wash of Laz beating Max in a prolonged fight. Again, he was worried about invisible attacks from behind and below... he could hear where Max was, his hearing being helped by more ice being put down with attacks; but Laz couldn't hear what Max was doing, if he was going Hellsing and turning into a 5-headed wolf-arm dude to attack from 3 directions.

He also doesn't take passive lightning damage from being in the middle of a storm but he h a t e s fighting electricity, and Darth probably knows it. I was ready to catch that L, had he decided to fight.

And you're welcome. Knowing you were my opponent was the only reason I agreed to stick around, as I have a pretty good reason for not being here that Clash knows about.

XD

i havent done free form battles in many many years. pre obama.

its funny when you speak of china. when i was there there were police halting traffic so hundreds of people could do tai chi in the morning. Same thing with a park in shanghai. its funny when stereotypes are true.

How so?

I love King of Fighters.