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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:47 pm


Yeah, that one gets my philosophy class scratching their heads. We can't really come up with a rebuttal.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:36 pm


I could but really its just my belief so in the end it wouldn't really be a soild answer, just to me >_>

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:42 pm


That's the thing: we'll always have the barrier of the senses.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:22 pm


Um...I think, therefore I am? sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:36 pm


Ah, that's the rational side of foundationalism. It's practically the other side of the argument I was making on the side of empiricism. In fact, if the philosopher you quoted met the philosopher I quoted, both would dismiss the other as completely crazy.

The idea of "Cognito; ergo sum," or "I think; therefore I am," is the basis of René DesCartes argument that the building blocks of knowledge are thoughts & concepts. The idea of matter not existing, only perception, is the basis of George Berkeley's argument that the building blocks of knowledge are what the senses perceive. However, there are flaws in both of these ways of thinking because neither thoughts nor the senses are completely reliable.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:59 pm


I can see how that would have a problem.. Because if you follow the theory: "I think; therefore I am", wouldn't that mean if you think you're a bird your a bird...? That logic doesn't quite work out that way in the end... But then again I'm not the smartest person either. ninja sweatdrop


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:13 pm


That is pretty much the problem of it. I forgot who said it, but someone is quoted as saying, "I once had a dream I was a butterfly; now I'm not sure if I'm a man who dreams of being a butterfly or a butterfly who dreams of being a man."
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:47 pm


Hmmmm... Well the next question should be; do insects dream? And how would you know? xD


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:59 pm


I guess there's know reason why they can't, but I don't know that much about insects & if they have sleepwaves like humans or not.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:21 pm


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Ah, that's the rational side of foundationalism. It's practically the other side of the argument I was making on the side of empiricism. In fact, if the philosopher you quoted met the philosopher I quoted, both would dismiss the other as completely crazy.

The idea of "Cognito; ergo sum," or "I think; therefore I am," is the basis of René DesCartes argument that the building blocks of knowledge are thoughts & concepts. The idea of matter not existing, only perception, is the basis of George Berkeley's argument that the building blocks of knowledge are what the senses perceive. However, there are flaws in both of these ways of thinking because neither thoughts nor the senses are completely reliable.

O.O Good point. I'd never thought of it that way before.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:47 am


That's why I'm taking this class: so I'll learn to see stuff in ways I never thought of before. 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:53 pm


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That's why I'm taking this class: so I'll learn to see stuff in ways I never thought of before. 3nodding

Cool! whee

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:28 pm


Happy International Talk Like a Pirate Day! pirate
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:47 pm


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Happy International Talk Like a Pirate Day! pirate

O.O Intrigueing...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:22 pm


Which is why I dressed up like this! ninja I'm the crazy pirate! xd
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