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 Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:31 pm
Well, I've back read.....I was LOOKING for what Chou had done--when he PM'd me (in response to something I had PM'd him last night, and told me he was possibly going to be banned) my first question was WHAT DID YOU DO?
That was my frame of thought. I was expecting that he had displayed similar behavior to what caused Sin and Imp to get so upset--but what did I find??
Umexchan--that was ALL you.
It's a Wild Things. It doesn't think, behave, act, or feel on it's own behalf--you PLAYED that it absolutely unconditionally, and irrationally rejected Chou--who WAS trying to be nice. (I've raised dogs, they don't turn down meat)
Arionis--I don't know what's going on with you---but you quite unfairly brought up the Mask reference--which SHOULD have been kept private. Chou repented, it's up to you, Muir, Rose--whomEVER was involved to forgive--and if you don't, that's on yourSELVES not on Chou--he's already DONE what all he can.
He has displayed a willingness to BEND OVER BACKWARDS to repair both his reputation, and his attitudes within this guild. Unfortunately SOME in here evidently want to PUSH him to behave in old patterns....or are ACTING as IF he still were--which from EVERYTHING I've read in the past 14 pages is NOT similar to old behaviors.
I consider this "tabled" and any further discussion should take place in Council Chambers rather than a chat forum, where it is after all, inappropriate.
These things having taken place here though-I did want to voice what conclusions I had come to after having caught up. I repeat, any FURTHER discussion, should take place inside Council Chambers should anyone WANT to further discuss this particular incident--and I would want THAT stipulation added as well, that it be about THIS particular incident, as the "Mask" incident is already taken care of.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:33 pm
AshoftheMidnightRose *is done back reading* Chou....this was in no way your fault...*is upset* This was mostly Ume though Kit and Ari played parts in it as well. You were being friendly and cautious the entire time. The only thing you did was snap at Lord once. And it was to defend yourself...I am more than a little pissed about this...and you all need to stop jumping on Chou. He didn't do anything wrong, and you cant just ignore that! *squirms away from Ume* Ash is right. Im sorry everyone but all Chou did was snap at Aronis..he was just trying to be friendly with Sabastian and it got out of hand..Chou obviously feels bad about this because he has actually stopped RP'ing even with Ash online...Im not blamming anyone for this but try not to let it happen again..This guild is supposed to be a friendly place for us all..
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:34 pm
Umexchan AshoftheMidnightRose *is done back reading* Chou....this was in no way your fault...*is upset* This was mostly Ume though Kit and Ari played parts in it as well. You were being friendly and cautious the entire time. The only thing you did was snap at Lord once. And it was to defend yourself...I am more than a little pissed about this...and you all need to stop jumping on Chou. He didn't do anything wrong, and you cant just ignore that! *squirms away from Ume* I wasn't trying to be mean. I was responding based on character mannerisms. The way Chou acted clashed with Sebastian's character. If the two are to be a problem I can take Seb out of the equation to prevent further damage. No please don't. I actually like interacting with sebastian. He makes me have a little fun. Besides he's coot.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:37 pm
Togiretogire Kitsune AshoftheMidnightRose Bitinged AshoftheMidnightRose So far all I've seen is Chou trying be friendly with a wolf creepily named after him and Ume-chan rejecting his kindness....my mother is upset and backreading though so if Chou did anything wrong I'll know soon enough... ..Wait..Whys Aileeya upset?.. Because she likes Chou, and hates this injustice. Kit: I don't know. My mom reads fast and I didn't catch what you did but she said you played a very small part. Your exceptionally nice and I doubt you did anything really. i think it may be because i threw the teddy scare at him... but i did it because i thought it'd lighten the mood a little.... Probably, but unfortuanately it just made me go into "Chou think for a second" mode. This was actually a good thing. I'm glad you helped me like I asked you to.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:37 pm
^^^^^^^^ Points to posts above...SEE??? I (by the way) would not be NEARLY as flexible should someone decide to stick with a pet name that was my own real life name after I had confessed that. ('course, I've NEVER come across anyone yet who's named their pet my particular moniker...but still!)
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:39 pm
chouthenekoarmyveteran Togiretogire Kitsune AshoftheMidnightRose Bitinged AshoftheMidnightRose So far all I've seen is Chou trying be friendly with a wolf creepily named after him and Ume-chan rejecting his kindness....my mother is upset and backreading though so if Chou did anything wrong I'll know soon enough... ..Wait..Whys Aileeya upset?.. Because she likes Chou, and hates this injustice. Kit: I don't know. My mom reads fast and I didn't catch what you did but she said you played a very small part. Your exceptionally nice and I doubt you did anything really. i think it may be because i threw the teddy scare at him... but i did it because i thought it'd lighten the mood a little.... Probably, but unfortuanately it just made me go into "Chou think for a second" mode. This was actually a good thing. I'm glad you helped me like I asked you to. glad to have "helped".. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:40 pm
*had been about to snap at Ume but closes her mouth and shuts up* I'm sorry Ume....you've got RPing on the mind and saw nothing wrong with what you did. I don't want you to be mad at me and I hate being upset with you. This wasn't entirely anyones fault and your getting dumped on so I'll shut up now. *is still peeved but bites her lip and stares at a wall*
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:40 pm
Everyone, Ari's had a situation on his end. He was snappy towards Chou because he's worn thin. And so have I been, and admittedly I jumped on Chou the other night thinking he had harassed someone else. I won't share details, but if Ari's snappy again, just try to understand that he's under a lot of strain right now.
Ash, Aileeyah, if we have a problem with Chou you have no right to tell us to drop it. We have our reasons.
By the way Aileeyah, I work with dogs too. They'll refuse meat from someone they don't trust.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:40 pm
Aileeya ^^^^^^^^ Points to posts above...SEE??? I (by the way) would not be NEARLY as flexible should someone decide to stick with a pet name that was my own real life name after I had confessed that. ('course, I've NEVER come across anyone yet who's named their pet my particular moniker...but still!) I like the name Sebastian so I don't see why I would have to change my pet's name just because it happens to be the name of someone else.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:43 pm
Aileeya he PM'd me (in response to something I had PM'd him last night, and told me he was possibly going to be banned) I've asked Ari about this. Chou is nowhere close to being banned. That's ridiculous. No one wants him banned. I don't like chou and I've told him as much, but so far as I know, Me, Kaze, and Ari don't see a need for him to leave. edit: grrrr, forgot to finish what I was typing So basically, if anyone's about to ban chou, it's not one of them, and I certainly won't vote for it.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:45 pm
Muirghiel Everyone, Ari's had a situation on his end. He was snappy towards Chou because he's worn thin. And so have I been, and admittedly I jumped on Chou the other night thinking he had harassed someone else. I won't share details, but if Ari's snappy again, just try to understand that he's under a lot of strain right now. Ash, Aileeyah, if we have a problem with Chou you have no right to tell us to drop it. We have our reasons. By the way Aileeyah, I work with dogs too. They'll refuse meat from someone they don't trust. *turns her glare on Mui* The situation is resolved. If you would like to put in a complaint about me do so. I'm not the kind to sit here and let you pick on Chou. But if you want to continue, by all means, go right ahead.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:47 pm
*goes outside to get away from the impending arguement (s) *
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:49 pm
AshoftheMidnightRose Muirghiel Everyone, Ari's had a situation on his end. He was snappy towards Chou because he's worn thin. And so have I been, and admittedly I jumped on Chou the other night thinking he had harassed someone else. I won't share details, but if Ari's snappy again, just try to understand that he's under a lot of strain right now. Ash, Aileeyah, if we have a problem with Chou you have no right to tell us to drop it. We have our reasons. By the way Aileeyah, I work with dogs too. They'll refuse meat from someone they don't trust. *turns her glare on Mui* The situation is resolved. If you would like to put in a complaint about me do so. I'm not the kind to sit here and let you pick on Chou. But if you want to continue, by all means, go right ahead. I don't much care for that tone, I haven't done anything wrong. I have never had a complaint about you. But you and Aileeyah may not realize that perhaps we have grief with him for something that you don't see as bad or wrong. You do NOT need to rush to defend Chou, he's not in any danger of our wrath or a banning, and if he's made it seem so then he was mislead. The only thing I'm actually angry with him about was the rude PM he sent to me last night, calling me several names. It bothered me so much that I put him on my ignore list rather than have anything continue further. It's creepy because I can't see his posts.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:53 pm
Muirghiel Everyone, Ari's had a situation on his end. He was snappy towards Chou because he's worn thin. And so have I been, and admittedly I jumped on Chou the other night thinking he had harassed someone else. I won't share details, but if Ari's snappy again, just try to understand that he's under a lot of strain right now. Ash, Aileeyah, if we have a problem with Chou you have no right to tell us to drop it. We have our reasons. By the way Aileeyah, I work with dogs too. They'll refuse meat from someone they don't trust. Re-read my post, I never said you shouldn't talk about it--I said discussion HERE in a chat thread (and in public) was inappropriate. IF you wish further discussion of THIS topic, it should be moved to Council chambers else what the heck are they there for to begin with??? LOL--I'd love to see a hungry dog refuse meat. In the aforementioned RP, Chou dropped the meat--so it's not like "Sabastian" had the hand of the "distrusted" right there in front of him. Dogs are evilly poisoned probably every day all over the world specifically because they DON'T turn down meat from people with evil intent. Ume--I'm not even one bit angry with you. I also NEVER said that you shouldn't name your Wild Things Sabastian--if you like it--that's fine--that's between you and...well you. lol! I ONLY said that I would feel much less flexible if it were MY name--which it isn't I NEVER said ANYthing along the lines of you shouldn't name your imaginary friend any name you want. Chou, who's name actually IS Sabastian seems fine with it--and I for one think that should tell you guys something about him....some of you people jumped on him with both feet, and owe him an apology. Please do not interpret my "conclusions" as "jumping" on Umexchan, or Arionis--I'm not. I merely want to set any record straight--and encourage further discussion of this to be moved to Council Chambers, which were after all made for these purposes! If Arionis is stressed, I think it's fair he expect EXACTLY the same leeway he offers others. *sweet smile* Ok...*sigh* For myself, I'll offer a heck of a lot more leeway than I've seen being offered. That's more than fair....but I did want to bring up that fact--since it was brought up by Muirghiel. May we now move ON??
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:59 pm
AshoftheMidnightRose Muirghiel Everyone, Ari's had a situation on his end. He was snappy towards Chou because he's worn thin. And so have I been, and admittedly I jumped on Chou the other night thinking he had harassed someone else. I won't share details, but if Ari's snappy again, just try to understand that he's under a lot of strain right now. Ash, Aileeyah, if we have a problem with Chou you have no right to tell us to drop it. We have our reasons. By the way Aileeyah, I work with dogs too. They'll refuse meat from someone they don't trust. *turns her glare on Mui* The situation is resolved. If you would like to put in a complaint about me do so. I'm not the kind to sit here and let you pick on Chou. But if you want to continue, by all means, go right ahead. .....somebody please quote this so Muir can see it? I was actually going to tell you why I am like I am. But because of your putting me on your ignore list I couldn't. I called you a little girl with a big mouth and no reason to gripe at me. Because that's all I knew you as. Then you explained to me why you hated me. So I tied to tell you why I am like I am. I can't say I hate you Muir. I can say I don't know you. This is my philosphy, "You can't judge a man by what he does till you have walked a mile in his shoes." It's what my ancestors believed in, and It's what I believe in.
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