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Which control scheme are you using?
Wiimote
6%
 6%  [ 9 ]
Wiimote + Nunchuk
27%
 27%  [ 39 ]
Classic Controller
10%
 10%  [ 15 ]
GameCube controller
55%
 55%  [ 77 ]
Total Votes : 140


Tatsuman

Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:30 pm


Talwar126

From what I understand, Ness learns the following in Earthbound:

Lifeup (α, β, γ, and Ω)
Hypnosis (α and Ω)
PSI Rockin' (α, β, γ, and Ω)
Healing (α, β, γ, and Ω)
Shield (α, β, and γ)
Paralysis (α and Ω)
PSI Flash (α, β, γ, and Ω)
Teleport (α and β)

It's Paula and Poo who learned PSI Fire, Freeze, Thunder, and Magnet.

And it makes no difference whether it was canceled or delayed (though you are right, it was canceled in 2000 and transfered to the GBA three years later). According to the the Japanese Smash Bros Melee site, on Ness Profile to be more specific, Lucas was intended to be in Smash Bros Melee in place of Ness but was pulled out due to that fiasco. It is likely that that is what occurred here.

Confidentiality wavers are used for the sole purpose of keeping information from leaking to the general public before the time that the company desires the news to be broken. If you ignore that waver, you are going to be sued, especially if you are dealing with a company as big as Nintendo. And I think that that the benefit of keeping the rest of the information from leaking would outweigh the cost of confirming two or three rumors.


Wrong. He never learns Teleport β, and I'm pretty sure he gets PSI Magnet, but I'm not as sure of that one.

I need to beat EB again after I beat MOTHER 3...

I know, dude. I am the Cult's resident EB fanboy, and I brought this same issue up months before Lucas was even confirmed.
There's a difference between Melee and Brawl. Melee got MUCH more publicity and sales than Smash 64.
And Ness wasn't a two game veteran, as much a WTF character in SSB, as many had never heard of him before.
Now he has a fanbase, and he's become sort of a staple of the Smash series.

Uh-huh. I believe he is lying as well. I'm just saying that since he has no proof, no way to validate his claims, they will fall on deaf ears anyway.

So it's really a non-issue to the dev team anyway.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:35 pm


He does get Teleport Beta.

RegalBuster


Talwar126

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:40 pm


xXxBusterxXx
He does get Teleport Beta.



What he said, and Ness does not get PSI Magnet. I've looked it up (I couldn't have remembered the full move list had I not).

But I'm not going to argue about this anymore. I've got a terrible habit of playing Devil's Advocate. I don't have a preference either way on Ness' presence in Brawl. If he's in, so be it. If not, whatever. Either way, I'm going to love the game and I'll be playing with every character available just like I do in Melee.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:44 pm


I was pretty sure that was Poo's exclusive technique aside from Starstorm, but I'll go with that for now.

Oh don't worry. I'll still love the game, and I'll still play it next to every day.

I just believe Ness will return. If I am wrong, then I am wrong.

Tatsuman

Dapper Genius


RegalBuster

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:45 pm


If Ness isn't playable he should be a Assist Trophy that appears and uses PSI Rockin' Omega on the entire screen
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:46 pm


They should do costumes and just have Ness be a costume for Lucas. Who cares about the little technicalities? ******** 'em.
They could "add" so many more characters if they did that. Sadly, I don't think they will.

Meta_Fish
Captain


RegalBuster

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:52 pm


I'm pretty sure the game will have no less than 40 characters.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:53 pm


Meta_Fish
They should do costumes and just have Ness be a costume for Lucas. Who cares about the little technicalities? ******** 'em.
They could "add" so many more characters if they did that. Sadly, I don't think they will.


Nah. Ness as an alternate would be nice, but their moves look to be too different so far.

One reason I think Ness will return, but that's a debate for another day.

But I would LOVE alternate costumes. NINTEN4BRAWL! xd
Joking, but it would be funny as hell.

Tatsuman

Dapper Genius


Denko

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:55 pm


Meta_Fish
They should do costumes and just have Ness be a costume for Lucas. Who cares about the little technicalities? ******** 'em.
They could "add" so many more characters if they did that. Sadly, I don't think they will.

I've been saying that since day one. I couldn't agree more.
Also, Tatsu, you really know your Earthbound/Mother.
I just want to freakin' play one of those games... why are they so hard to get a hold of? gonk
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:05 pm


Denko
Meta_Fish
They should do costumes and just have Ness be a costume for Lucas. Who cares about the little technicalities? ******** 'em.
They could "add" so many more characters if they did that. Sadly, I don't think they will.

I've been saying that since day one. I couldn't agree more.
Also, Tatsu, you really know your Earthbound/Mother.
I just want to freakin' play one of those games... why are they so hard to get a hold of? gonk


They aren't so much "hard to get a hold of" as "Easy to find, but illegal to own", if you catch my drift.
ninja

Tatsuman

Dapper Genius


Denko

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:07 pm


Tatsuman
Denko
Meta_Fish
They should do costumes and just have Ness be a costume for Lucas. Who cares about the little technicalities? ******** 'em.
They could "add" so many more characters if they did that. Sadly, I don't think they will.

I've been saying that since day one. I couldn't agree more.
Also, Tatsu, you really know your Earthbound/Mother.
I just want to freakin' play one of those games... why are they so hard to get a hold of? gonk


They aren't so much "hard to get a hold of" as "Easy to find, but illegal to own", if you catch my drift.
ninja

I'm just trying REALLY hard to avoid illegal methods.
There has to be another way.
Why won't Nintendo put Earthbound in the damn VC?
>_<
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:12 pm


Denko
Tatsuman
Denko
Meta_Fish
They should do costumes and just have Ness be a costume for Lucas. Who cares about the little technicalities? ******** 'em.
They could "add" so many more characters if they did that. Sadly, I don't think they will.

I've been saying that since day one. I couldn't agree more.
Also, Tatsu, you really know your Earthbound/Mother.
I just want to freakin' play one of those games... why are they so hard to get a hold of? gonk


They aren't so much "hard to get a hold of" as "Easy to find, but illegal to own", if you catch my drift.
ninja

I'm just trying REALLY hard to avoid illegal methods.
There has to be another way.
Why won't Nintendo put Earthbound in the damn VC?
>_<


At the moment, there is no way to get MOTHER 3 or EarthBound Zero without using ROMs.

So really the only one you can get legally is EarthBound, and the cart can go for about $100

Tatsuman

Dapper Genius


RegalBuster

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:14 pm


I'm pretty sure it's only time until Earthbound is on the VC...hopefully Mother gets on the VC internationally.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:15 pm


I'll just cry eternally until Nintendo decides to stop being retards and re-release Earthbound for DS or something...
I dunno I JUST WANT IT
D:<<<<<<

Denko


Tatsuman

Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:16 pm


xXxBusterxXx
I'm pretty sure it's only time until Earthbound is on the VC...hopefully Mother gets on the VC internationally.


Here's to hoping. The game's already translated, so I'm actually surprised it's not already on the VC...
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