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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:00 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Lorysa Pyrotechnic Oracle Vivnox Pyrotechnic Oracle Viv, I just can't sit back any more. I'm sorry, and this is not directed at you but I have to say it. I dispise your signatures. No, not despise, there is no word to explain the hate I feel for them. They make a generalisation about pro-lifers. That being we try to subjicate woman and take their rights away. It is not out right, and they are not oepnly saying we are, but the implication is there, and its is wrong. It's done for two reasons. The first was because off all the ones supporting Keeran that were up after APP's abortion to show that some actually support her. And the other is more to show that pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. Personally, I have no problem removing mine as long as each pro-lifer removes their Keeran signature. Why? Your signatures indirectly insult us and imply that we try to enslave woman and denythem their rights. Or sigantures mearly morn the loss of a human life. Well...I think I.Am is the only one here who hasa signature that coudl be called insulting. It implies the Pirate didn't love Keeran. But then I don't think she did. I sound rude, yes. But I personally don't think someone can really love someone else and yet kill them, even to, 'Spare them a horrible life where they're not wanted", as if unwantedness really determines the worth of human life.You have to understand it form their poitn of view. Their point of view is that if you love them you won't make them suffer through a hard life. Thats the reasoning behind it. But, thats not love at all. Thats what you think. Love is about giving your child life and lettign them make their own decisionand formign thier own opinoins. I know, but who's life isn't hard? I mean, honestly.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:00 pm
Fine, but I still won't be silent
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:01 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Vivnox Pyrotechnic Oracle Viv, I just can't sit back any more. I'm sorry, and this is not directed at you but I have to say it. I dispise your signatures. No, not despise, there is no word to explain the hate I feel for them. They make a generalisation about pro-lifers. That being we try to subjicate woman and take their rights away. It is not out right, and they are not oepnly saying we are, but the implication is there, and its is wrong. It's done for two reasons. The first was because off all the ones supporting Keeran that were up after APP's abortion to show that some actually support her. And the other is more to show that pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. Personally, I have no problem removing mine as long as each pro-lifer removes their Keeran signature. Why? Your signatures indirectly insult us and imply that we try to enslave woman and denythem their rights. Or sigantures mearly morn the loss of a human life. Well...I think I.Am is the only one here who hasa signature that coudl be called insulting. It implies the Pirate didn't love Keeran. Actually, it says that she didn't -want- Keeran, which is completely true. I never meant anything about her -loving- Keeran. I have only a slight, "Those bother me" feeling about the new Choice signatures. But I recognise that my signature would do the same thing for them. So meh. Although, I just thought of this when I saw them, you notice that at first it was just about the choice of abortion, and Neth didn't think up the other one. Also, the other one has far fewer supporters. No offense, just something I noticed.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:01 pm
Lorysa I know, but who's life isn't hard? I mean, honestly. Thats true.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:01 pm
You know what guys? We need a venting thread.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:03 pm
Akshamala You know what guys? We need a venting thread. I disagree, honestly.
I want us to respect the other side, not b***h about them.
Essentially, I see the pro-choice guild as having degraded into the "Anti-pro-life" guild.
I don't want that happening here.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:03 pm
I.Am Actually, it says that she didn't -want- Keeran, which is completely true. I never meant anything about her -loving- Keeran. Yeah, I noticed that shortly after I made my post. Sorry about the accusation Am.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:04 pm
Akshamala You know what guys? We need a venting thread. Brilliant idea! We can just keep it in its own little subforum, even thought that'd cost a lot of gold, and then we can have a warning in the title because there'd be most likely a lot of cussing and yelling.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:04 pm
I.Am Pyrotechnic Oracle Vivnox Pyrotechnic Oracle Viv, I just can't sit back any more. I'm sorry, and this is not directed at you but I have to say it. I dispise your signatures. No, not despise, there is no word to explain the hate I feel for them. They make a generalisation about pro-lifers. That being we try to subjicate woman and take their rights away. It is not out right, and they are not oepnly saying we are, but the implication is there, and its is wrong. It's done for two reasons. The first was because off all the ones supporting Keeran that were up after APP's abortion to show that some actually support her. And the other is more to show that pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. Personally, I have no problem removing mine as long as each pro-lifer removes their Keeran signature. Why? Your signatures indirectly insult us and imply that we try to enslave woman and denythem their rights. Or sigantures mearly morn the loss of a human life. Well...I think I.Am is the only one here who hasa signature that coudl be called insulting. It implies the Pirate didn't love Keeran. Actually, it says that she didn't -want- Keeran, which is completely true. I never meant anything about her -loving- Keeran. I have only a slight, "Those bother me" feeling about the new Choice signatures. But I recognise that my signature would do the same thing for them. So meh. Although, I just thought of this when I saw them, you notice that at first it was just about the choice of abortion, and Neth didn't think up the other one. Also, the other one has far fewer supporters. No offense, just something I noticed. Actually a lot more people are asking to be put on it. The original one for APP use to have half the number it does now. Since the one for Bea has been made the people who weren't on in the first place when it was being asked about have been asked to be put on it. And Akshamala, a venting thread IS a good idea. And there I'm sure you could use names because it's designed for venting purposes. Hell, I'd vent about a few of the pro-choicers there myself.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:06 pm
Mcphee Akshamala You know what guys? We need a venting thread. I disagree, honestly.
I want us to respect the other side, not b***h about them.
Essentially, I see the pro-choice guild as having degraded into the "Anti-pro-life" guild.
I don't want that happening here.I was goign to say somthign similer. Look, I'm really sorry about venting liek that. ANd I take back only what I said about I.Am's sig. But every thign else I said stands. I just had to get that out into the open. We morn the lose of a human life they support it, and then make disparaging indirect accusations.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:09 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Mcphee Akshamala You know what guys? We need a venting thread. I disagree, honestly.
I want us to respect the other side, not b***h about them.
Essentially, I see the pro-choice guild as having degraded into the "Anti-pro-life" guild.
I don't want that happening here.I was goign to say somthign similer. Look, I'm really sorry about venting liek that. ANd I take back only what I said about I.Am's sig. But every thign else I said stands. I just had to get that out into the open. We morn the lose of a human life they support it, and then make disparaging indirect accusations. for me it's not the loss I'm supporting. I say if artificial wombs are made and technology can remove a zygote, embryo, fetus at any stage without killing it abortion should be made illegal because there is no point in it. I'm supporting the fact that since it's not APP and Bea were both able to make the decisions that they felt were the best for them. And APP you must also remember thinks this decision was the best for Keeran because of her belief in reincarnation.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:13 pm
Vivnox Pyrotechnic Oracle Mcphee Akshamala You know what guys? We need a venting thread. I disagree, honestly.
I want us to respect the other side, not b***h about them.
Essentially, I see the pro-choice guild as having degraded into the "Anti-pro-life" guild.
I don't want that happening here.I was goign to say somthign similer. Look, I'm really sorry about venting liek that. ANd I take back only what I said about I.Am's sig. But every thign else I said stands. I just had to get that out into the open. We morn the lose of a human life they support it, and then make disparaging indirect accusations. for me it's not the loss I'm supporting. I say if artificial wombs are made and technology can remove a zygote, embryo, fetus at any stage without killing it abortion should be made illegal because there is no point in it. I'm supporting the fact that since it's not APP and Bea were both able to make the decisions that they felt were the best for them. And APP you must also remember thinks this decision was the best for Keeran because of her belief in reincarnation. Look, I'm through with this. I've said what needed to be said.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:40 pm
Lorysa Pyrotechnic Oracle Lorysa Pyrotechnic Oracle Vivnox Pyrotechnic Oracle Viv, I just can't sit back any more. I'm sorry, and this is not directed at you but I have to say it. I dispise your signatures. No, not despise, there is no word to explain the hate I feel for them. They make a generalisation about pro-lifers. That being we try to subjicate woman and take their rights away. It is not out right, and they are not oepnly saying we are, but the implication is there, and its is wrong. It's done for two reasons. The first was because off all the ones supporting Keeran that were up after APP's abortion to show that some actually support her. And the other is more to show that pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. Personally, I have no problem removing mine as long as each pro-lifer removes their Keeran signature. Why? Your signatures indirectly insult us and imply that we try to enslave woman and denythem their rights. Or sigantures mearly morn the loss of a human life. Well...I think I.Am is the only one here who hasa signature that coudl be called insulting. It implies the Pirate didn't love Keeran. But then I don't think she did. I sound rude, yes. But I personally don't think someone can really love someone else and yet kill them, even to, 'Spare them a horrible life where they're not wanted", as if unwantedness really determines the worth of human life.You have to understand it form their poitn of view. Their point of view is that if you love them you won't make them suffer through a hard life. Thats the reasoning behind it. But, thats not love at all. Thats what you think. Love is about giving your child life and lettign them make their own decisionand formign thier own opinoins. I know, but who's life isn't hard? I mean, honestly.I know my life wasn't easy and still isn't.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:29 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle If miranda (as long as Jabber does not rmind me refering to her as such) wern't such a "heathen fire bound pegan" ( xd ) I'd ask her to have my babies. WIth her mind and my bronz we coudl create a race of super humans I don't care if you use my real name. XD
And I work in a maternity store, right about now I'm about ready to freakin' steal some babies.
"Are those for me?" "No those are mommy's clothes" "No, they're for me." "No they're mommy's" "Nope, they're mine." "Well they'll be far too big for you." "Nuh uh."
She knew they weren't for her too. XD She was just trying to get her mom going, she was only like 3. I wanted to keep her.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:35 pm
I'm donatign when I'm of age (what is the leagl age to donate sperm? 18?)
And stealign babies is wrong Miranda whee Thats like stealing dark chokolate form me. It pure evil
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