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Well ever since I got into the game in 3rd edition with armegeddon, Ive liked speed freeks, and to a lesser extent feral orks (though theyre pretty much gone).

Anyways, I had never really pinned down to one clan or tribe or whatever, but before actually gluing or painting anything from the stuff I have I intend to sit down with the codex and start reading fluff.

Anyways, I may do tankbustas, but Id be mounting them in something to keep that speed freek feel.

I dont know if Id want to go that points heavy for a unit, though you could model them as cyborks with track wheels for legs, which I think they even mentioned in one of the unit descriptions.

Anyways, I intend to abuse power claws, the nob squad, even the shooty, squad, and especially at least one on a deffkopta squad.

I do want to take a nob squad on bikes so I can fill a troops spot with bikes, and the other with the trukk boyz giving it that speed freek feel. Id also probably rather use, a battlewagon than a looted vehicle. The deffkoptas seem like a nice anti tank unit if equipped with rokkits or mega blastas.

In general actually, it looks like they gave the orks more of an edge on armor, I remember most ork armies I took on before being easily raped by any tanks no matter how much they rocked in hand to hand.

I may use wazdakka rules, and model something else that "counts as". But ultimately Im planning this out based on just using a normal warboss on bike.

Thank you for mentioning star wars "swoops". I had been thinking of looting some land speeder pieces I had about, but modeling them on swoop bike styled contraptions would be pretty awesome, and keep the bike feel. That and it wouldnt take much materials wise.

But as for Zagstruk and whatnot, as Im not a big special character user, I dont consider him an option either. The only special characters Ive ever used, and even then sparingly, are pheonix lords. I own a Chaplain Xavier, but thats more just because I felt I might as well buy the model if Im making Salamanders, otherwise Ive never actually used him in a game.

It would be kinda hard to make a Warboss on a bike because most known Warboss odels are made from Metal...
A warboss in a Trukk would suffice...

Better yet... Get him in a Battle Wagon and make it so he can ove effortlessly thru the field... A Kill Kannon does wonders!

Shadow Prince: But a bike gives him a cover save, 4+ save AND +1 Toughness, so it's way cooler than putting him in a trukk as well as you won't be able to use a boss in a trukk as a "count as" Wazzdakka Gutsmek.

Also I don't find it hard to convert models in metal, simple as pie really, all you need is a good saw. :3

Also I disagree, a battlewagon with killcannon isn't worth the points, it miught be cool, but it only have range 24" AND makes the already expensive battlewagon even MORE expensive, the looted wagon does the work better, putting it in some trench or besides a big mek with kostum force field, just because the battle wagon have armour 14 it doesn't mean it's invulnerable, plus it's open topped (no one want an 'ard case battle wagon since it won't be able to let the transported models assult if they do get towards the enemy) it will most likely be shot down since the enemy see it as a threat, plus it's slow, 12" movement, also if it gets shot into bits you'll be auto-pinned. Now giving it a lobba or a kannon oughta do it, and 4 big shootas, well that's my thought about it anyways. :0


Anyways, the promised Zagstruk models... :B





Sorry if the pictures seem big ;0

I've never really liked them, in the old fluff they were boring, but now in the new when most of them are yoof orks who are eager to join the battle, as well as most of the storm boyz "regimentz" are living far away form the ork society.

Also I like the new Zagstruk, I might field him, but I belive I'll go for Snikrot instead. A 5 (maybe all 10, but I don't know yet biggrin ) man strong kommando unit, having 2 rokkit launchas, and snikrot, entering play from behind the enemy to fire at the rear of the tanks, all depending on the enemy too. :0

If facing Chaos I belive I'd take the stormboyz with Zagstruk.

Edit: Also just to add, I'm not really fond of the new way they make the ork faces, they seem "flat" and "broader" than the usual look, just look at Zaggy here, I am thinking of switching his head to a Black Orc head, there's a helmetless one with only one eye, just greenstuffing a bionik eye to him and sculpt him a nice new cap and voila~

As I just read in the 3rd edition codex they're just crazy orks, to quote "Stormboyz are fierce Ork Warriors who gamble with their lives (and their sanity) by strapping on crude Ork rokkit packs to blast them towards the enemy" who wants to get into close combat faster, haven't read much about them in 2nd edition so I wouldn't know about things back then. o 3o;

And by reading through the book I didn't find anything more about stormboyz.