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 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:44 am
I drew a new Cloti piccie! :] Sorry for no skin tone right now. xD
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:16 pm
Uwah!! So cute!! whee I really like your style Lunar. biggrin It's simple and yet so awesome!! whee You're so much better at coloring than I am....Ugh.....When I color...it's like the Apocalypse came or something. rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:17 pm
Hehe, thank you! :]
I personally think I suck at coloring--- at least with colored pencils. x[
I can never get it to look the way I want it!
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:53 pm
Me and color pencils....just don't work together. sad They hate me....Especially in art class.....Darn you color pencils!!!! You made me get a B!!! scream
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:51 am
So, know that amazing friend I was talking about? Well, she sent me this:
Notice how Cloud is holding Tifa's hand so that she doesn't fall? :]
I never noticed that! So cuuute. <33
And, she sent me the essay from this site:
http://eternal.cloti-aikou.net/index1.html
About the final FMV. I'll post it here:
Though my opinion has changed over the years on the ending itself, what exactly happens between Cloud and Tifa only varies with minor detail. Yes this is what I think happens, my interpretation of the who "Let's meet her" thing. Firstly, after Sephiroth is beaten Cloud and Tifa are the last ones left behind, Cloud falling once more into what could be said as the lifestream, mentally, and or physically. Through the tunnel in which he falls into there are echoes of Aeris' theme, the materia dropping in my opinion echoes of the struggle for the planet and what happened when she tried to help it by summoning Holy. Cloud reaches the bottom where the final battle between him and Sephiroth take place, in which Sephiroth looses. Cloud being surrounding by the stream of consciousness in which he looks up as he follows the stream into the light of which Aeris' hand appears to be reaching for him. Yes, yes and by all means it IS Aeris' hand, her theme plays as she reaches for him, and he tries to reach for the hand back.
Though he could not grab the hand because of the interruption of Tifa's hand who seems to be reaching for him. I'd like to recap this little bit first before I continue on. This has several meanings as far as I'm concerned, for one the idea of Cloud reaching for Aeris' hand could be interpreted as that he's trying to see her again, this light, it was probably an overwhelming situation something where he was being lead into this. The place is in, is probably that of the promised land, or a derivitive the place where souls may gather perhaps this is why there is a finalization between Cloud and Sephiroth as they fought there. Though the real intention of this scene as I see it, is that Aeris is trying to bring Cloud back to reality, to draw him closer so that he'll be able to see Tifa and snap out of this dream world. See, I always saw this scene as a type of illusion almost that Cloud was trapped in, one where he would not go to see Aeris because that is not where he belongs. The fact that he suddenly sees Tifa's hand the same way he sees Aeris' hand in my opinion is symbolic on so many levels.
He sees Tifa's hand because it represents the other side of where he was, where life is, where love is right in front of him reaching for him (and Tifa is clearly a symbol of love throughout the game whether you support c/t or not). Not only that but I think the music for itself speaks also on it's own level in this scene most importantly. As Aeris' theme plays, as she reaches for Cloud, and as he notices that it's really Tifa in front of him, her theme becomes out of tune and off tune for that matter. Meaning clear as day that Tifa is what he should be seeing and paying attention to. This could also mean in it's own way that the stream of consciousness that Cloud was surrounded by was not only Aeris but Tifa's voice coming through to him sort of how it was when they were in the lifestream together. Though, that part of the theory is more in speculation than my other thoughts.
And as Tifa reaches for Cloud who she tries yelling to, and who is about to fall. The floor beneath her breaks and she falls, Cloud quickly acting as he catches her from falling and saving not only her but himself as he grabs onto a ledge. Though I have a whoooooole other explaination of what the symbolism is for Cloud catching Tifa and you can read it here. I'm not gonna repeat myself on that issue, but let me continue for the rest of what I want to rant about. As Cloud continues to hold Tifa he says "I think I'm beginning to understand", "An answer from the planet....the promised land.", "I think I can meet her...there." as Cloud finishes that Tifa looks up at him with a smile and says "Yeah, let's go meet her." Let me interprete this because I know this whole scene can have so many damn meanings. For one thing I think he was generally talking about his experience after beating Sephiroth in seeing Aeris' hand reaching for him. Generally speaking, he could just be talking about seeing her in that place when it's time he goes to that place where she is. Though I don't know where the implications come from that he wants to marry her and start a family...because the real Cloud did not meet Aeris, he would like to, in the promised land. The promised land was defined as a physical place and a mental place during the game, and overall it's "a place of supreme happiness".
Tifa's response to his words could be said that she knew exactly what he was talking about or didn't. For one, she she indeed happy when Cloud brought up the issue of meeting her, I don't think it was "defeat" or she was "bowing" her head like I read somewhere before. She simply smiled as you could plain as day see because Aeris was her friend and rested her head closer to his chest because it was a happy realization that no matter where Cloud goes and no matter what he does Tifa will always be with him by his side as she has been since the beginning. This is why she comments by saying "Yeah...let's go meet her" it's either her understanding that they might die, or that no matter what happens she'll be with him. I tend to go with the latter because that's the kind of character Tifa is. I also tend to go with this and the fact that she was happy because of the music in the background. As Cloud speaks of the promised land, Tifa's theme plays and as the conversastion ends it becomes triumphant not depressing (I also don't tend to believe those who say she finally came to realization that Cloud loves Aeris...um that to me doesn't A) make sense and B) doesn't constitute a triumphant melody). Not only that but Tifa's theme combines with the main FFVII theme which is Cloud's theme, as if there is an understanding between them, as they lift themselves up from the ledge they give each other a look and see the others calling them. With that Tifa's theme and the main theme finish off as she waves.
This is sort of minor but I feel I have to say it anywhere just to push my ideas. When the highwind is blasted from the crater everyone is falling on their sides, and Cloud indeed *does* grab Tifa's hand as he holds onto a rail stopping them from falling to the sides. Not only that but in the sequence of the whole ending Cloud is always near Tifa, yes please feel free to call me a nitpicker and that omfg that doesn't mean anything. Though to me in the long run, with such strong proof prior to this minor bs, it makes sense and should be acknowledge because it is there.
Very nice points! :] Don't you all agree!
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:32 pm
Aaaa yes I remember reading that eons ago and I still agree with it to this day.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:46 pm
It's cause it's so darn true in my opinion. Why would Enix put that in if they didn't mean too?
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:58 pm
Heheh, FFVII's ending was meant to have a lot of interpretation. But since it ended with such emptiness, the story had to go on. xd I agree with what most of the essay says, though, some points are still left to speculation. I too have noticed that Cloud seems to stick more to Tifa in the ending. When he catches her, it also represents the promises between each other when they were children. (At least, that's how I see it.) And when the airship is falling, he holds tightly onto Tifa, still by her side. He didn't have to, since the woman can pretty much fend for herself, but still, he latches on to her. (Leaving everyone else to slide down. xd Lovely.) When Tifa is up looking at the lifestream, Cloud looks at her, first to acknowledge her which shows the extent of his attention. I think this ending also leads up well to the beginning of Case of Tifa where Cloud seems to be positive, making a remark that he and Tifa will be together from now on. (Heheh, Cloud blushes....)
(Dang....school's been killing me lately...normally I would reply quickly.....)
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:59 pm
Well said, Twin! <3
School hasn't started for me yet--- but I'm definitely not excited for it. Dx
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:17 pm
Yeah...it's like a nightmare.....I'm already bogged down by textbooks on the first day of school....30 long pages in one chapter....*Sighs* Why can't AP History textbooks have pictures to fill the page? cry
Concerning the game.....in the English version is so horribly translated (resource: Loveless Shrine) and actually some of the Cloti scenes were meant to be more intimate. (I'll post up some of the essays later.....on Labor Day maybe...)
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:25 pm
Awee! I'm going to be startinbg school soon and I can imagine that this will happen to me too! DX It seems everyone has started school already besides me... x]
Yay! It will be like a Labor Day treat. :"]
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:47 am
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