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TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:30 pm


Sophist
I'm half filipina but I don't know how much I can talk about being filipina without another filipino who is "more filipino" than me calling me on my privilege.

... emo I dunno. Bleah.
Is it the top half or the bottom half? eek

Here's the thing- and this is something a lot of folks have trouble grasping. Having an ethnic heritage makes you a person with an ethnic heritage for the most part, especially so in a melting-pot/mosaic culture like the USA.

I can't speak to the way Filipino culture identifies, but many cultures identify membership via participation. That said, there's nothing wrong with identifying accurately by an internal label that comments on the way your heritage is expressed within the culture you belong to.

patch99329
I know the feeling.

I'm a white middle class female. I live in a white middle class area. I vote conservative.

I hate that to some that makes me bad and a racist by default.
I hate that as well.


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I hate the fact that if I do even the tiniest thing it's automaticly seen as privelige,
Is it privilege? ~shrugs~ The reality of the matter is that privilege doesn't have to be a deliberate act for it to be indulged.

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but some people can s**t all over stuff and thats fine.
Why is it fine?

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I suffered a mini breakdown this morning afer a hideous few weeks, and because of my ulcerative colitis it's also made me physically ill. ninja
So I took the day off and slept for two hours at lunch!
Sleep is love.

I can't wait until I get mental health days from work.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:06 pm


EDITED: http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/pub/rc/index-eng.asp

Read the PDF. It's pretty accurate.

Linking is screwing up for me.

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TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:08 pm


Didn't pull up for me.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:46 pm


Sophist
So, been reading blogs that discuss feminism, ableism, and racism, such as FWD/Forward, Racialicious, and Living in Spanglish, and might be super worried that some of the things I say or think might be inadvertently racist. sweatdrop Seems like it's really easy to do. I so wish they had more racial/cultural awareness classes. But this makes me feel even more isolated in my "whiteness." I'm half filipina but I don't know how much I can talk about being filipina without another filipino who is "more filipino" than me calling me on my privilege.

... emo I dunno. Bleah.


I spent a weekend reading Racialicious and the only thing I accomplished was stupefying myself with anger when a patron at work asked me "what country are you from?" first thing Monday morning.

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aoijea23487

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:18 pm


I dislike having vision delays like I'm drunk but am actually completely sober.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:32 pm


Illiezeulette
I dislike having vision delays like I'm drunk but am actually completely sober.
Yikes. Any idea what is causing it?

TeaDidikai


maenad nuri
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:53 pm


Sophist
So, been reading blogs that discuss feminism, ableism, and racism, such as FWD/Forward, Racialicious, and Living in Spanglish, and might be super worried that some of the things I say or think might be inadvertently racist. sweatdrop Seems like it's really easy to do. I so wish they had more racial/cultural awareness classes. But this makes me feel even more isolated in my "whiteness." I'm half filipina but I don't know how much I can talk about being filipina without another filipino who is "more filipino" than me calling me on my privilege.

... emo I dunno. Bleah.

Wanna know what I do? I acknowledge that I am going to ******** up. Probably a lot. I'm going to say and do things that will make me cringe when I think back to them.

So I think on that, I acknowledge it and I own it. Apologize and listen if I do it to someone who is offended. Because that is the only way that I can get better about it. I am going to ******** up. But I have to work through the ********.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:22 pm


maenad nuri
Sophist
So, been reading blogs that discuss feminism, ableism, and racism, such as FWD/Forward, Racialicious, and Living in Spanglish, and might be super worried that some of the things I say or think might be inadvertently racist. sweatdrop Seems like it's really easy to do. I so wish they had more racial/cultural awareness classes. But this makes me feel even more isolated in my "whiteness." I'm half filipina but I don't know how much I can talk about being filipina without another filipino who is "more filipino" than me calling me on my privilege.

... emo I dunno. Bleah.

Wanna know what I do? I acknowledge that I am going to ******** up. Probably a lot. I'm going to say and do things that will make me cringe when I think back to them.

So I think on that, I acknowledge it and I own it. Apologize and listen if I do it to someone who is offended. Because that is the only way that I can get better about it. I am going to ******** up. But I have to work through the ******** class="clear">
To piggy back, growth is a process. If it's moving up, there's going to be more exertion, more sweat, than if we stay on a level path.

Gho the Girl


aoijea23487

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:04 pm


TeaDidikai
Illiezeulette
I dislike having vision delays like I'm drunk but am actually completely sober.
Yikes. Any idea what is causing it?

Bad sleeping schedule this past day.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:18 am


I may not celebrate Christmas, but as I've never missed one Christmas with my family.

Until now.

I don't know what the ******** I'm going to do with myself...

Recursive Paradox


TheDisreputableDog

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:22 pm


Recursive Paradox
I may not celebrate Christmas, but as I've never missed one Christmas with my family.

Until now.

I don't know what the ******** I'm going to do with myself...
You could come see me... ninja But I think even though your school is deceptively closer to my parents' house than it is to my school, it would still be a trek. That and you don't actually want to be there when my parents kill me for having poor grades. But heart
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:53 pm


TheDisreputableDog
Recursive Paradox
I may not celebrate Christmas, but as I've never missed one Christmas with my family.

Until now.

I don't know what the ******** I'm going to do with myself...
You could come see me... ninja But I think even though your school is deceptively closer to my parents' house than it is to my school, it would still be a trek. That and you don't actually want to be there when my parents kill me for having poor grades. But heart


Maybe. I can't have the car during that time cuz Error's gonna be working a lot. I'm trying to work out rides to my old hometown to visit friends (which is still gonna be hard cuz I have to literally avoid my family)

Recursive Paradox


Bastemhet

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:08 pm


TeaDidikai
Sophist
I'm half filipina but I don't know how much I can talk about being filipina without another filipino who is "more filipino" than me calling me on my privilege.

... emo I dunno. Bleah.
Is it the top half or the bottom half? eek


I never checked. xd

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Here's the thing- and this is something a lot of folks have trouble grasping. Having an ethnic heritage makes you a person with an ethnic heritage for the most part, especially so in a melting-pot/mosaic culture like the USA.

I can't speak to the way Filipino culture identifies, but many cultures identify membership via participation. That said, there's nothing wrong with identifying accurately by an internal label that comments on the way your heritage is expressed within the culture you belong to.


Not quite sure how that would work. Though a lot of my participation has been limited to family members, food, and gossip, my mom personally lived there 'til she was 26 and considered it a hotbed of corruption and inequity. Kind of hard to gain any pride in my second culture (because I identify primarily as American) when the people in my family seem like they're doing their best to disassociate from it.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:28 pm


maenad nuri
Sophist
So, been reading blogs that discuss feminism, ableism, and racism, such as FWD/Forward, Racialicious, and Living in Spanglish, and might be super worried that some of the things I say or think might be inadvertently racist. sweatdrop Seems like it's really easy to do. I so wish they had more racial/cultural awareness classes. But this makes me feel even more isolated in my "whiteness." I'm half filipina but I don't know how much I can talk about being filipina without another filipino who is "more filipino" than me calling me on my privilege.

... emo I dunno. Bleah.

Wanna know what I do? I acknowledge that I am going to ******** up. Probably a lot. I'm going to say and do things that will make me cringe when I think back to them.

So I think on that, I acknowledge it and I own it. Apologize and listen if I do it to someone who is offended. Because that is the only way that I can get better about it. I am going to ******** up. But I have to work through the ******** class="clear">


Yeah, that's pretty much what I already do. My inner censor is huge already, but even more so since I've joined this guild. I think it's because everything I think or say, within seconds, my mind can come up with three different interpretations of it, and one of them possibly offensive. I usually don't say anything unless it's gone through review. Even then I think of a better, more precise way I could've said something the second I close my mouth after saying it. I guess I'm kind of a**l about words. Which is why people piss me off a lot. sweatdrop

Bastemhet


TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:29 pm


Sophist


I never checked. xd

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Not quite sure how that would work. Though a lot of my participation has been limited to family members, food, and gossip, my mom personally lived there 'til she was 26 and considered it a hotbed of corruption and inequity. Kind of hard to gain any pride in my second culture (because I identify primarily as American) when the people in my family seem like they're doing their best to disassociate from it.
Then why not be proud of being a person who has maintained the good parts from their culture in the US?
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