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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:31 am
Never said you were a racist, I read your explanation and I apologize for over reacting, but you have to understand that when someone say discrimates it carries a teriible conotation for me, you have to be a little more careful about the words that you use to describe your thoughts, there is a majot difference ackowledging culture and social difference, and being discimanotory. You have to learn to be very specific about that distinction when you explain yourself or else you're always going to get people like me, who jump to conclusions based on your choice of words.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:34 am
Good point. Sorry. Though there are some who would call me racist anyway, because I recognize that different ethnic stocks have different attributes (no, I'm not saying any are "better" or "worse"). The Polynesians, for example, would make excellent wrestlers because they are, as a race, the most massive people on earth. Chinese people tend to be very good at math...etc.
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Sir J Wiedreich the Blind
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:34 am
The things we say mean different things to different people.
Clairity is more abstract than good and evil.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:36 am
Oh, I wouldn't go that far. Pretty close though.
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Sir J Wiedreich the Blind
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:38 am
I would. Even the simplest of sentances can me more than what someone might think at first. The best example is "I love you."
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:38 am
Well seems we're all deep this early in the day. How lovely.
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Fractured Moonlight Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:39 am
I would have to agree with the Elf boy there, and yes there are physical diffenrence amongst the human race, depending on country or origion, just like other species of animals can very diffenrently amohgst the same species which live in different areas of the world, but as to the mental capacity of people, don't think that the chinese are natural good at math, I think its just that in that society they push towards a more academic education.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:40 am
I wouldn't call it "deep" just yet. I wouldn't call it early either. But that's just me. But yes, words alone can mean very little. It's a lot easier to be clear if you're talking face-to-face with somebody.
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Sir J Wiedreich the Blind
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Fractured Moonlight Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:42 am
Do you always contradict people with negative connotation?
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:43 am
No. I just dislike agreeing with everything that everybody says. I like to analyze things.
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Sir J Wiedreich the Blind
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:44 am
Connotation and denotation... evil words.
Face to face tends to be more heated than posting, but the human element adds clairity.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:48 am
Now this is where people start calling me racist...when I get into the human mind. The Chinese, Hindis, and Egyptians (well, at least the educated ones) have been practicing math for thousands of years. If your ancestors for many generations have been excellent mathematicians, it is likely that you will be predisposed to that. I don't see how I can go wrong here though, when I say that whatever a person's ancestors have been doing will be what the person is good at. Some races TEND to be very good at certain things, mental and physical, that make them different from other races.
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Sir J Wiedreich the Blind
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:58 am
If you think about it, you're actually agreeing with I just said, when it comes to skills, its not so much that you're born with skills to be a carpenter or to be really good at math, its like you said certain cultures have been doing things a certain way for generations, and there beliefs are based on this actions, like Mexican culture, is one that celebrates and glories people who are really good at making things with there hands, so there is large sway for Mexican to be carpenters and do manual labor, becuase it carries with it a badge of prestige that very often American don't understand becuase this is a culture that is more glorifying of people that are good at the academics and sports more so than somone who can build a fence or know what to plant to get the best yeild. To many american being a migrate farm worker means that you had to work at that job because you lacked the mental skills to anything else. While in my mind, like in that of many Mexicans a farmer is a noble profession, a person that is willing to toil long hours and endire much pain to see that the very ground that brought us life continues to do so.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:59 am
I spent five weeks listening to a geographer argue that their is not such thing as race.
He proved it again and again, and showed us to origins of 'racial' thinking.
Human geographer, not a geologist.
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Sir J Wiedreich the Blind
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:00 pm
A...geographer...talking about race?
Odd. How exactly did he...prove this? stare Aren't they called 'demographers'? Just because the prefix means 'people' as opposed to 'land'. Anyway, all humans are the same species...
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