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Bleeding Art

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:10 pm


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i am forcing my phandom on other friends! yay!

friend: yeah, i checked out phantom of the opera from the library today
me: omg, are you going to read it?!
friend: no, im just gonna stare at it! of course im gonna read it!
me: well, it seemed to good to be true!!!

-a few days later-

friend: omg, raoul is such a fop!
me: yaaaay! im so proud of you!!!

*Cries* No he isn't!


...

I think I just died a little inside.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:42 am


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BakaTulip
(spork~god)
i am forcing my phandom on other friends! yay!

friend: yeah, i checked out phantom of the opera from the library today
me: omg, are you going to read it?!
friend: no, im just gonna stare at it! of course im gonna read it!
me: well, it seemed to good to be true!!!

-a few days later-

friend: omg, raoul is such a fop!
me: yaaaay! im so proud of you!!!

*Cries* No he isn't!


...

I think I just died a little inside.
Raoul is kind, emotional, brave, fairly quick on the uptake, perhaps not the most rational thinker, but rebellious... he gave up his money, his lifestyle, his position in society to run away with Christine. Just being in love with her would have been taboo. Not to mention he was a sailor so he was physically strong, and he WAS right about Erik...someone WAS playing with Christine's emotions.

hazellazer


Erin Sovenya

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:31 am


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BakaTulip
(spork~god)
i am forcing my phandom on other friends! yay!

friend: yeah, i checked out phantom of the opera from the library today
me: omg, are you going to read it?!
friend: no, im just gonna stare at it! of course im gonna read it!
me: well, it seemed to good to be true!!!

-a few days later-

friend: omg, raoul is such a fop!
me: yaaaay! im so proud of you!!!

*Cries* No he isn't!


...

I think I just died a little inside.
Raoul is kind, emotional, brave, fairly quick on the uptake, perhaps not the most rational thinker, but rebellious... he gave up his money, his lifestyle, his position in society to run away with Christine. Just being in love with her would have been taboo. Not to mention he was a sailor so he was physically strong, and he WAS right about Erik...someone WAS playing with Christine's emotions.
All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:43 pm


About a month ago...

Choir practice, break time
Me: *goes over to piano and starts playing some chords* You were once my one companion...
Elizabeth: Hey, that's my song! *rushes over to piano*
Me: Huh??
Elizabeth: *steals piano and plays song perfectly*
Me+Elizabeth: You were once my one companion etc.

Choir practice, the next week, before it started
Me: *walks in*
Elizabeth: *is playing the piano*
Me: Is that something I know? *walks over to piano and reads title: Journey to the Cemetery (I think)*
Elizabeth: Could you turn the page please, Rita?
Rita: Sure *turns page*
Elizabeth: *continues playing*
Me: *looks at picture on facing page* OMG it's Fanto!!! NEEEEEEH!!!!!

You guessed it...Elizabeth is a phan!!! Score!!!
In the bus on the trip to Charlotte, she and I started singing "Down Once More". It was phun.

Elanchana


hazellazer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:32 pm


Erin Sovenya
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(spork~god)
i am forcing my phandom on other friends! yay!

friend: yeah, i checked out phantom of the opera from the library today
me: omg, are you going to read it?!
friend: no, im just gonna stare at it! of course im gonna read it!
me: well, it seemed to good to be true!!!

-a few days later-

friend: omg, raoul is such a fop!
me: yaaaay! im so proud of you!!!

*Cries* No he isn't!


...

I think I just died a little inside.
Raoul is kind, emotional, brave, fairly quick on the uptake, perhaps not the most rational thinker, but rebellious... he gave up his money, his lifestyle, his position in society to run away with Christine. Just being in love with her would have been taboo. Not to mention he was a sailor so he was physically strong, and he WAS right about Erik...someone WAS playing with Christine's emotions.
All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
True, but I mean to be able to hold up on a boat takes some physical strength but yes he IS a pansy. Just... not a bad pansy.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:00 pm


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Erin Sovenya
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(spork~god)
i am forcing my phandom on other friends! yay!

friend: yeah, i checked out phantom of the opera from the library today
me: omg, are you going to read it?!
friend: no, im just gonna stare at it! of course im gonna read it!
me: well, it seemed to good to be true!!!

-a few days later-

friend: omg, raoul is such a fop!
me: yaaaay! im so proud of you!!!

*Cries* No he isn't!


...

I think I just died a little inside.
Raoul is kind, emotional, brave, fairly quick on the uptake, perhaps not the most rational thinker, but rebellious... he gave up his money, his lifestyle, his position in society to run away with Christine. Just being in love with her would have been taboo. Not to mention he was a sailor so he was physically strong, and he WAS right about Erik...someone WAS playing with Christine's emotions.
All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
True, but I mean to be able to hold up on a boat takes some physical strength but yes he IS a pansy. Just... not a bad pansy.


ALL men essentially in that era and before were "pansies" because they openly wept. Dr. Van Helsing in Dracula wept a LOT in the book. And he's still portrayed as strong.

Doesn't matter that he cried of emoion. He was brave enough to risk life, limb, and even Aristocratic title to have his beloved.

Bleeding Art

Obsessive Kitten


NinjaRachel

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:39 pm


On my birthday, my ultimate PHAN moment, I was thrown a surprise party. Everyone was cheering when I walked through the door, and singing. I was all happy, and I go to sit down and eat cake, when the lights go out all flickery, and my friend lamely presses a button on the cd player, playing the Phantom of the Opera. I cracked up, and listened pleasantly, then began to sing off key along with it. I was about to sing Erik's part, but was interrupted by the lights being flung on.

And there in the hallway, was the Phantom, walking towards me, singing off-key also, to the song. He had the hat and the mask (on the wrong side of his face, but whatever), and sang to me. As he got closer I realized it was my good buddy (And crush), and he suddenly got annoyed, knocked over the cd player, and says,
"Screw this, I can't sing."
And sits down at the piano and plays the song.

I died. heart But not really.

Hee, I've never seen it on Broadway or tour, I'm really quite jealous of all you. I can never be a true phan. XP
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:24 pm


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...

I think I just died a little inside.
Raoul is kind, emotional, brave, fairly quick on the uptake, perhaps not the most rational thinker, but rebellious... he gave up his money, his lifestyle, his position in society to run away with Christine. Just being in love with her would have been taboo. Not to mention he was a sailor so he was physically strong, and he WAS right about Erik...someone WAS playing with Christine's emotions.
All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
True, but I mean to be able to hold up on a boat takes some physical strength but yes he IS a pansy. Just... not a bad pansy.


ALL men essentially in that era and before were "pansies" because they openly wept. Dr. Van Helsing in Dracula wept a LOT in the book. And he's still portrayed as strong.

Doesn't matter that he cried of emoion. He was brave enough to risk life, limb, and even Aristocratic title to have his beloved.
yes, but by definition, a fop means someone overly concerned with the way they look. this generally goes along with pansy, but just making a point 3nodding

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Erin Sovenya

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:36 pm


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All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
True, but I mean to be able to hold up on a boat takes some physical strength but yes he IS a pansy. Just... not a bad pansy.


ALL men essentially in that era and before were "pansies" because they openly wept. Dr. Van Helsing in Dracula wept a LOT in the book. And he's still portrayed as strong.

Doesn't matter that he cried of emoion. He was brave enough to risk life, limb, and even Aristocratic title to have his beloved.
And our beloved Erik cried often too. The point is that while Van Helsing and Erik are portrayed as strong, Raoul isn't. He deos heroic things, but when he does them he does them stupidly. When Van Helsing/Erik did things, he did them intelligently. Just read the novel and you get the image of a very effiminate yougn man runnign down a hallway sobbing after a Christine being led away by a tall, dark figure.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:00 am


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...

I think I just died a little inside.
Raoul is kind, emotional, brave, fairly quick on the uptake, perhaps not the most rational thinker, but rebellious... he gave up his money, his lifestyle, his position in society to run away with Christine. Just being in love with her would have been taboo. Not to mention he was a sailor so he was physically strong, and he WAS right about Erik...someone WAS playing with Christine's emotions.
All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
True, but I mean to be able to hold up on a boat takes some physical strength but yes he IS a pansy. Just... not a bad pansy.


ALL men essentially in that era and before were "pansies" because they openly wept. Dr. Van Helsing in Dracula wept a LOT in the book. And he's still portrayed as strong.

Doesn't matter that he cried of emoion. He was brave enough to risk life, limb, and even Aristocratic title to have his beloved.
yes, but by definition, a fop means someone overly concerned with the way they look. this generally goes along with pansy, but just making a point 3nodding


Actually no it wouldn't go with fop. Pansy is more or less someone who is too afraid to go through with things. Raoul, by definition is NEITHER.

@ Erin: Actually, that is not the image I get of Raoul. He is the personality contrast of Erik. So while Erik is the insane, mad with power deformed man, Raoul is the gentle and safe young man with a soft little heart. His appearance was described as effeminite, but that doesn't mean it went down to his soul.

I think you both are ganging up on me here.

Bleeding Art

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NinjaRachel

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:14 pm


Any guy who would go running through a labyrinth in pitch black darkness, knowing there's a man that would like to see him dead lurking about in it, is not a pansy in my book. He goes to save a girl who had previously "dumped" him in a way, but still loves her enough to go risk his life.
Well-dressed does not equal pansy.
(In ALW's version, the Phantom dresses nicely. And I don't believe him to be a pansy)

I need to read the book again, I'm being too vague. ^^'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:12 am


Erin Sovenya
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All of these things are true, and yet he is still a pansy. (And just cause he was a sailor doesn't mean he's buff/strong. This wasn't America, with its boot camp and such. As an aristocrat, he probably went straight to officer-dom.)
True, but I mean to be able to hold up on a boat takes some physical strength but yes he IS a pansy. Just... not a bad pansy.


ALL men essentially in that era and before were "pansies" because they openly wept. Dr. Van Helsing in Dracula wept a LOT in the book. And he's still portrayed as strong.

Doesn't matter that he cried of emoion. He was brave enough to risk life, limb, and even Aristocratic title to have his beloved.
And our beloved Erik cried often too. The point is that while Van Helsing and Erik are portrayed as strong, Raoul isn't. He deos heroic things, but when he does them he does them stupidly. When Van Helsing/Erik did things, he did them intelligently. Just read the novel and you get the image of a very effiminate yougn man runnign down a hallway sobbing after a Christine being led away by a tall, dark figure.
I disagree, Raoul wasn't stupid.. just...well... impetuous. He had a tendency to jump head first into things because it meant the safety of the person he loved more than anything.

If we're talking ALW then let's stick YOU behind a portcullis unarmed trying to save your true love and see what YOU do.

If we're talking Leroux let's stick YOU in a torture chamber with a persian with poor sense of direction (XD) and see what would happen.

Geeze! Stop picking on the poor guy! He's basically at the mercy of a madman! A very kickass mad man but mad nonetheless.

I'm with you Uta!

hazellazer


hazellazer

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:21 am


NinjaRachel
Any guy who would go running through a labyrinth in pitch black darkness, knowing there's a man that would like to see him dead lurking about in it, is not a pansy in my book. He goes to save a girl who had previously "dumped" him in a way, but still loves her enough to go risk his life.
Well-dressed does not equal pansy.
(In ALW's version, the Phantom dresses nicely. And I don't believe him to be a pansy)

I need to read the book again, I'm being too vague. ^^'
Well she had shoved him away but only to protect him really. Anyways the night before she was abducted they'd agreed to run away. She begged to sing for Erik one last time, just out of the goodness of her heart because it would be too cruel to just abandon him. She really did pity and care about him in away... until he shove a chloroformed rag over her face and knocked her out. But yes.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:43 pm


On The Right Track messages...

Voila! I'm enrolled in St. Charles Summer Institute MUSICAL REVUE camp!! It's a section of the camp where we select songs from certain Broadway musicals and perform them. Me, I'm going to suggest Phantom songs...

AND, there's a tour of the Garnier coming up in my future.

Elanchana

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