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Omnileech, it's how you presented it.

Less sarcasm and more determination in proving your point would have better resolved this issue.

And Saverio, we'll see.

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In any case, don't drop that soap C.

Mob rule be damned. The mob doesn't change the constitution or else we'd have a lot more dead arabs right about now.

It's not a compromise in doing exactly what I want done.

Nah, it has to be here, I need the closure.

See ya all later, and behave, and thirdly, respect each other.

Stop all the sarcasm or being hurtful or whatever. >.>

Being nice helps a lot when you have a grievance that needs to be addressed.

You're setting a double standard if you decide to keep any guild events in the main forum. Basically you're just calling your games events and then deciding that only events/games from the staff are allowed to stay while everyone else gets their stuff moved. Set an announcement pointing to the game that's in the game forum and be done with it.


That's how to set a nondiscriminatory practice that reflects positively on the guild.

Alright, I have a few things to say.
First of all, the members are entitled to a say in what happens in this guild because they are the ones that frequent it.
Majority rule does come into affect because this guild does want to make the members happy...if we didn't care what members thought, this thread wouldn't exist...we could have just banned the members that were posting against the Guild events being placed on the main page and deleted all the posts regarding the matter...
maybe then we would have fit into the image of power corrupted individuals that has been thrown around.
Majority rule does matter in or outside of Gaia. For an example, look at prohibition. So many people wanted the alcohol that by trying to outlaw it, the government made things worse.

Secondly, why is it that the word "exception" is overlooked?
Just for clarification: Exception - 2. something excepted; an instance or case not conforming to the general rule.
Why is it that people are claiming we would be unjust to have an exception to a rule?
Most rules have exceptions. That's because it can create problems to have rules so stiff and unflexible.

Guild events belong in the spotlight.
They are special events from all of the moderators to the rest of the guild.

The debate about placement of contests may go on because that issue obviously isn't resolved, but Guild events are not in the same category as the rest of the contests if you want my opinion, and I don't think that I'm alone in feeling this way.

As for my thinking that Omni is childish, well, it wasn't because of the fact that Omni had a complaint regarding the issue.
It was because of his attitude and some of the remarks he made and also the way he went about confronting this issue.
When someone starts throwing false accusations around to get what they want, well that is childish in my opinion and seems more than a bit over dramatic.

I find it funny how all the mods allegedly made their decision in under 20 minutes. So what, were they all online or did you just ask one or two people, Alarias and go with the decision you made yourself?

Who exactly did you talk to and what did they say? When?

How can you possibly make a decision as big as guild policy without consulting even most of the staff? Looks like you made the decision largely on your own covering your decision to make the thread where you did.

Largely your arguments have been red herrings too.

"It's for entertainment so don't get upset!"

"This is trivial!"

"It's always been this way!"

"It's an exception! (Though largely only the staff are able to get exceptions for any of their rules)"

"If you don't like how we do things, don't complain or try to change then, just leave!"

And my other opponents made equally poor arguments.

"You must have a vendetta!"


"Omni's having a tantrum!"

"Contests are not games!"

"Gaia has event games!"

Which are in their own forum specifically designed for them and not in any of the main forums.

"Well if you're going to complain about where we put the games/contests then we shouldn't hold any at all!"

Give me a break. I'm asking for universal following of the rules no matter who makes them. Being a guild contest does not make it any different from any other contest. It's still a game to played for a prize.

I agree wholeheartedly with Saverio.

Omni, what you don't seem to understand is that the forums, guilds, and gaia itself is not a republic. It's not a democracy. It's quite frankly an oligarchy. The moderators make the rules for the masses to follow. You have your opinions, and they may or may not listen to you, but it is not required. If they wish to make an exception to a rule, that is their perogative, and they can continue to deny you that right, as you are not part of that ruling class.

As long as they admit they're hypocrites and don't follow their own rules then I'll be satisfied if they continue to act the way they do. If you're going to be unfair and impartial then you might as well be honest about it.