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Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:21 pm


Demon Fenrir
Umm how would this look for a good, DPS/Group assistance spec for Warlocks? [X]

I'm going to go ahead and say no; Deomonic Knowledge or Pet Sac are the main reasons to go into Demo for instances. (Or at least deeper then 10ish.)

is probably the best group spec for Aff; http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?5500022510230115512012350000000000000000000505000000000000000000This is probably the best suckily geared destro spec http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?0000000000000000000002350000133250101501350505000512200010000000;the next is is the best geared destro spec http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?0000000000000000000002350010133200100000000545000512202013020350

You're going to want to just spam shadowbolts rather than fire spells, because apparantly it not only does more damage, but also provides a debuff via talent and that steadily increases group DPS with some other casters. (Eventually DK's, possibly.)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:15 pm


Im currently speced into demonology to get Soul Link because i was planning on doing areans with friends... untill they quit wow.

Now i have a pally alt im leveling and my warlock sits parked in citys waiting for my guild to run randoms Kara and Gruuls.

So. My demonology spec is pretty much useless now, and i want to respec full affliction. But is it worth it for raids? Ive talked with warlocks from the top guild on my server are other warlocks that are respected, and they say they use affliction for their raids aswell.

Think its worth it?

AllShallParrish


Capitalist Revolutionary

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:30 pm


chrono911
Im currently speced into demonology to get Soul Link because i was planning on doing areans with friends... untill they quit wow.

Now i have a pally alt im leveling and my warlock sits parked in citys waiting for my guild to run randoms Kara and Gruuls.

So. My demonology spec is pretty much useless now, and i want to respec full affliction. But is it worth it for raids? Ive talked with warlocks from the top guild on my server are other warlocks that are respected, and they say they use affliction for their raids aswell.

Think its worth it?

Full anything is a no-no. Affliction is said to be the riading spec, but later end game destruction becomes more and more viable.

41/10/10 is supposadly the preferred raiding spec, Bane is worth 10 points, especially if you get the buff to overall raid DPS from shadowbolt crits.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:15 pm


Funkalicious_INK
Eiryn Fox
Funkalicious_INK
The Mule Of Max
Funkalicious_INK
Lol soz, was sleepy.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbxczIiz0xsZVx0tr0pM

I thought that Immolate, which is in my cycle a craptload, (I got over the fact that Incinerate > Shadowbolt) was more important than 5% damage, (Which I was wrong, it's crit.) but hell, I havn't specced that far down into demon for a long time and didn't see 5% crit.

Only thing about your build I would change Kim, is instead of putting 1 point into mana, into Deomonic Resil.
    you need mana feed or whatever the ******** it's called. at least one point, it's so important for long fights.

Why?

Long fights are either PvP or raids/parties, usually. PvP I have my FH out, and in parties I have my imp out.


BECAUSE MAX SAID SO OK!!! gesh! whiney warlocks..... stare

EVEN I DON'T BELEIVE WHAT MAX SAID UNLESS HE HAS A WARRANT (or, just something that makes sense) FOR HIS CLAIM!


OK THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE. YOU ARE SMART

Eiryn Fox


Eiryn Fox

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:39 pm


my friend is a warrior and is lvl 52 and would you believe that he has not spent a single point?! I was like

WTF????

yes, so I went a searching in the warrior forums and asked warriors about their specs.. and i come up with

A BIG FAT NOTHING

can you do better?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:38 pm


OMGWTFBBQ?!

If he uses a slow 2her, go slam spec for funz or MS for less efficiency and more funz.

If he dual weilds, go like 41 points in fury and.... 3 in Tactical Mastery, rest in arms for leveling.

Capitalist Revolutionary


Eiryn Fox

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:11 pm


Funkalicious_INK
OMGWTFBBQ?!

If he uses a slow 2her, go slam spec for funz or MS for less efficiency and more funz.

If he dual weilds, go like 41 points in fury and.... 3 in Tactical Mastery, rest in arms for leveling.


I WANT FREE SAMPLES DAMIT!!!! show me the point tree!
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:42 pm


Eiryn Fox
Funkalicious_INK
OMGWTFBBQ?!

If he uses a slow 2her, go slam spec for funz or MS for less efficiency and more funz.

If he dual weilds, go like 41 points in fury and.... 3 in Tactical Mastery, rest in arms for leveling.


I WANT FREE SAMPLES DAMIT!!!! show me the point tree!


Depends what he wants to go for.

PrototypeHastur


The Mule Of Max

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:57 am


Eiryn Fox
Funkalicious_INK
Eiryn Fox
Funkalicious_INK
The Mule Of Max
Funkalicious_INK
Lol soz, was sleepy.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbxczIiz0xsZVx0tr0pM

I thought that Immolate, which is in my cycle a craptload, (I got over the fact that Incinerate > Shadowbolt) was more important than 5% damage, (Which I was wrong, it's crit.) but hell, I havn't specced that far down into demon for a long time and didn't see 5% crit.

Only thing about your build I would change Kim, is instead of putting 1 point into mana, into Deomonic Resil.
    you need mana feed or whatever the ******** it's called. at least one point, it's so important for long fights.

Why?

Long fights are either PvP or raids/parties, usually. PvP I have my FH out, and in parties I have my imp out.


BECAUSE MAX SAID SO OK!!! gesh! whiney warlocks..... stare

EVEN I DON'T BELEIVE WHAT MAX SAID UNLESS HE HAS A WARRANT (or, just something that makes sense) FOR HIS CLAIM!


OK THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE. YOU ARE SMART
Because pets do use mana. Imps run out of mana fairly quickly during instances, as can a Succubus. The investment is worth it.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:41 am


The Mule Of Max
Eiryn Fox
Funkalicious_INK
Eiryn Fox
Funkalicious_INK

Why?

Long fights are either PvP or raids/parties, usually. PvP I have my FH out, and in parties I have my imp out.


BECAUSE MAX SAID SO OK!!! gesh! whiney warlocks..... stare

EVEN I DON'T BELEIVE WHAT MAX SAID UNLESS HE HAS A WARRANT (or, just something that makes sense) FOR HIS CLAIM!


OK THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE. YOU ARE SMART
Because pets do use mana. Imps run out of mana fairly quickly during instances, as can a Succubus. The investment is worth it.


I hardly even consider using the Imp for anything except for the buff. Unless you talent-buff your imp. I find him to be unreliable DPS purely for the fact that they die to easily from AoE, and a priest can wand the damn thing down in about 5 seconds. To me, Imp is nothing more than a buff in NPC form.

Rarely do I find Succubus to be useful (mana-wise) except for seduce. Otherwise that pathetic tickling ability they call an attack is worthless unless it's talent-buffed. Even so it scales as much as a house can jump.

That mana feed talent is purely mediocre, unless you choose to have your pets use their mana-devouring abilities

PrototypeHastur


PrototypeHastur

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:41 pm


On a previous thread, I mentioned the odd-ball specs and parties that me and my friends made. So if you got an odd-ball spec/party. Just give it out. This is just for pure fun. (This was quite a while ago, so the speccs are a bit off when it comes to its abilities.)

Our odd-ball party consisted of a level 57 Warlock (tank). Level 56 Balance Druid (Healer). Level 59 Protection Paladin (DPS). Level 56 Disc Priest (DPS). Level 61 Survival Hunter (DPS)

Voidwalker tank specced warlock
Healer Balance Druid
Protection Paladin DPS
Disc Priest DPS
Survivalist Hunter

We were also intending to create another Odd-ball team with a Enhancement Shammy as tank, Protection/Holy Paladin as healer, Protection/fury Warrior as DPS, Imp-specced Warlock as DPS, and a Balanced spec Mage as last DPS, but most of us quit WoW before we would put that plan into fruitation.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:29 am


Ok,
I need a good sub-arena rogue spec. I was thinking hemo/ghostly strike/swords-maces. Or just ambush/daggers are the three combos I am told that work very well.

I'm told hemo is good for slow high damage weapons, and wasted on the such for daggers. Same with ghostly strike.

Most rogues that are sub, as I am told, are daggers to get the high ambush crits off. However, I've noticed in arenas- you want the advantage of silencing or ignoring armor (meaning a garrote approach). So I will least likely be going daggers, and leaning towards swords or maces for my rogue.

Right now, I am leveling sub/swords.

But zee boyfriend tells me (and I trust his rogue advice, being as he has played every spec in every aspect- but prefers combat daggers and raiding) that a good look for a sub build would be in the ball park:
20/0/41

Picking up Lethality, relentless strikes, and improved eviscerate.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?3053201051000000000000000000000000000000000005500531000301213501051

Here's the build I'm looking at right now.

Sound of Wolf

5,900 Points
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PrototypeHastur

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:52 am


Sound of Wolf
Ok,
I need a good sub-arena rogue spec. I was thinking hemo/ghostly strike/swords-maces. Or just ambush/daggers are the three combos I am told that work very well.

I'm told hemo is good for slow high damage weapons, and wasted on the such for daggers. Same with ghostly strike.

Most rogues that are sub, as I am told, are daggers to get the high ambush crits off. However, I've noticed in arenas- you want the advantage of silencing or ignoring armor (meaning a garrote approach). So I will least likely be going daggers, and leaning towards swords or maces for my rogue.

Right now, I am leveling sub/swords.

But zee boyfriend tells me (and I trust his rogue advice, being as he has played every spec in every aspect- but prefers combat daggers and raiding) that a good look for a sub build would be in the ball park:
20/0/41

Picking up Lethality, relentless strikes, and improved eviscerate.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?3053201051000000000000000000000000000000000005500531000301213501051

Here's the build I'm looking at right now.


Oh God, Shadowstep is the total bane of Sub's existence. It's only good if the enemy choses to stand still. And since in Arena everyone is moving constantly, Shadow step is a wasted effort to get close to them. It's even worse if you have a slower computer because you lag.

If you're looking for an Arena-specced Rogue, there are several ways to do it based on how you distribute your points and what exactly you're going for. But from what I'm seeing, I don't really see too much direction in your suggested build except for getting close to the enemy and pounding away whatever abilities you have.

A rule of thumb that you seemed to avoid, which marks your doom in arena. You have little survivability talents. In arena, you get one shot in life, so you need to make the most of it by building mostly stamina and resilence gear. Especially since you are a rogue, you'll be going for the healer alot, so you need to survive the healer's friends as you go for the clothie.

Damage isn't neccesarily the highest mark. Since you are a rogue, and lack the distribution of talents for big, opening damage, you have to resort to more balanced means of survival and damage.

Basing on whatever you intend to do in Arena, here is my suggestion:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheboxZG0cZEof0MuRsbR
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:55 pm


Greeting all. I recently dinged 70 with an affliction warlock, and have re-speced for a PvE/PvP build;

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warlock/talents.html?0502220512235115512010050000000000000000000505000010000000000000

This gives me abilities that increase my survivability and still kick a** in PvP.

However, since I plan to do casual raids with my guild (like Kharazan) I have recently come across this build which might be better for raiding;

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warlock/talents.html?0502220412230115512210000000000000000000000505000512200000000000

While I'm not to fussed about loosing a bit of PvP power, I would still like to be decent at it. And also in Solo PvE all 5 points in Fel Concentration realy help for when I loose agro off my void walker.

So right now I'm stuck between those two builds. If I were to ever do bigger raids, which spec would I be better off with?

I'd like to keep Improved Howl of Terror and Unstable Affliction, as they are two talents that have helped me stay alive so many times, I don't know what I'd do without them.

Nightmare Rider Kiva

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