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 Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:16 pm
As Deity mentioned before, the main reason Chibi Buu wasn't incinerated immediately was because Son was too weak to throw the Genki-Dama as strongly as was necessary. We see this, as the moment he gets his powers back and goes SSJ, he tears Buu a new one with ease.
Deity actually founds the ball to be just about 30 billion in power (theoretically), as he guesses the average ki for the Earthlings would be 3, not 5. Add on the Namekians, Enma and his little group, the Z Fighters, taking about...and yeah, it amounts to around 20 - 30 billion. As someone who calculates Chibi Buu at roughly 600 million, hDeitysees that as over-mucho-mega-kill....it'd definitely kill Brolly just as horribly.
...that said, if it were the exact same situation (a very weakened base form Son throwing the ********), Deity thinks Brolly'd be able to catch it, too.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:37 pm
Well the only flaw to the theory is that the farmer(from the beginning of DBZ) had a powerlevel of 5, of course thier might be a bunch of powerlevels from humans from 2-5.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:44 pm
It ain't much of a flaw...the highest level of a human that is read is 5. We can assume weaker people/children can have as low as 1. There aren't exactly Mr. Satan-like he-men growing on trees - with powers like 6 or 8 - so we'll go by 1-5 as the normal human range.
The average is 3. So, the average human has a power of 3.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:50 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:46 am
The Fierce Deity It ain't much of a flaw...the highest level of a human that is read is 5. We can assume weaker people/children can have as low as 1. There aren't exactly Mr. Satan-like he-men growing on trees - with powers like 6 or 8 - so we'll go by 1-5 as the normal human range.
The average is 3. So, the average human has a power of 3. yes but assuming that the ninja are in a city can goku tell the diffrence between them and the people around him. p.s. orochimaru and the third hokage have shown chakra/ki levels able to lift rocks and crack shingles a dbz occuring event so i think some shinobi are in the range of a saiba man in terms of power.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:55 pm
Yes, he can. Bulma was in West Capital when Son found her. That, and he was capable of pinpointing exactly where she was...he did so from the Tenka. It isn't a difficult task, less so at close range, so there's really no basis for that argument.
Hardly...the Saibamen and Raditz were roughly as strong as 400 hundred humans, and, having read much of the Naruto manga, Deity's only seen feats of strength of the like from the Fifth and Sakura. That aside, Son could wipe out hundred of Saibamen in base form, by himself, with ease.
Breaking rocks and shingles is a pre-Saiya-jin Saga feat, anyway...Son could do it as a little boy, and so could Mr. Satan, who was weaker than Son was as a child. Deity doesn't need to explain how much Mr. Satan would stand no chance against Son.... xD
Edit: D00d, this is the Brolly-vs-Chibi Buu thread...take that discussion to the Naruto thread. < <;;
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:44 pm
Well lets look at the facts.
Strength: Well overall, Broly has the most physical strength
Speed: Akthough Broly is fast I don't think he could move on par with chibi buu so chibi- buu wins that
Durability: Well Broly takes this one because no attack seems to phase him. Buu has the regeneration which is not really durability.
Intelligence: Well they both arn't the brightest creatures, But I'd have to say Chibi-buu on this one, why? Because he was smart enough to know that Goku wouldn't launch the spirit bomb while Vegeta was hurt. The it's not like it's a big gaping lead between Broly's intelligence.
Broly's advatages:
-His strength
-His durability
-His powerlevel rising on intervals
Buu's advatages:
-His speed
-His rubbery body
- His other magic type powers (Transmution, Regeneration, etc)
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:21 pm
Neither of them have either exhibited a lack of intelligence...many people say Brolly is dumb, when he's never done something stupid. /=;; They are both, however, very very nuts.
...also, the part where Chibi Buu held Vegeta down is only filler - it's an anime-only occurrence. While Brolly only has animated features to work off of (hence, Movies #8 and #10 are his canon), it'd be best to go by Chibi Buu's original canon, too, so Deity refers to the manga only. In the original event, Satan quickly ran over to retrieve Vegeta while Buu wasn't looking, so there were no gears turning in Chibi Buu's head. xD
He saw Son with the Genki-Dama and threw a ki ball, which was dodged, Satan rescued Vegeta, and Son threw the Genki-Dama. Buu fired a Kamehameha at it, but it was ineffective, which is why he opted to try and stop it last-second.
Your other points, though, Deity can agree with. Buu is much faster; Brolly can likely deal more extensive physical damage. Buu is very susceptible to injury, but regenerates immediately if he needs to; Brolly is overall impervious to harm, minus his unknown-to-Buu weakspot.
The only thing - which has likewise been discussed - that Chibi Buu has over Brolly is that he might try to absorb'im. The chance of that happeneing are somewhat low, but existent. Aside from that, however, the closest thing to a decision that we have is that the fight could go either way.
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:29 pm
And we're back where we were before. This is what happens when a thread that's already been concluded is revived.
Seeing as it's alive again, I'll simply re-state that I believe the odds are in Buu's favor due to his approximated - and previously discussed - 25% chance that he'll try an absorption. Having greater speed and Instant Transmission under his sleeve, it would most likely be successful if he tried it.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:03 pm
As you said, that's been covered... [/didn'tforget] ...if Chibi Buu attempted an absorption, it'd work. The only way it wouldn't is if, say, he threw his blob-of-self at Brolly as he was being charged, and it missed by happy coincidence. Saiya-dude has no other defense aside from dodging or maybe seeing it coming and blowing it up. The chance of Buu doing it is still low, in Deity's honest opinion....25% isn't much anyway, and Buu might see more fun in killing Brolly than absorbing him.
...though, by the way, you did make a tiny error just now - Chibi Buu cannot, in fact, use Shunkan Idou. He uses the Kaioshin Instantaneous Teleportation, which transfers the user to a place, not a person. He was even surrounded by the same aura as East Kaioshin when using the move. 'Sides, he has to see a technique to learn it, and Son didn't use Shunkan Idou until after Chibi Buu arrived on the Kaioshin Planet.
The liklihood of Buu using it in battle might also be up for debate, seeing as he only used it the once, and never tried to avoid a move with it. Then again, that could just be chalked up to his overconfidence....dunno. ::shrug:: ...either way, he can still do it, so it'd depend on the situation, Deity assumes.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:30 pm
But if you discredit Buu using that technique, then we would also have to discredit Brolly's Galaxy Buster, seeing as he never used it in battle, only in one instance in the movies.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:35 pm
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Saiyan Master Vegeta Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:29 am
Yes, 25% is rather low, but it makes all the difference when the next best scenario is anybody's call.
And I had a feeling it wasn't Instant Transmission . . . just couldn't put my finger on it.
I'll agree with you that he wouldn't use it in battle, due to him only using it to get somewhere.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:31 pm
Well couldn't buu just cookie ray him and eat him?
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:35 pm
^Maybe. There's actualy a good chance that Buu got his transforming antena powers from when he absorbed the great lord of worlds(which turned him into fat Buu), since kid Buu never actualy uses said power.
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