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You know anything about jewish study?
yes, i learn it.
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nope, i dont, i dont want to.
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no but i would want to learn
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kingpinsqeezels

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:20 pm


nathan_ngl
kingpinsqeezels
darkphoenix1247
soo...ahem, trying to get back on topic...


What kind of experience have people had with Judaism? Ex: What schooling, etc? 3nodding
None! Yay! I have a book and a torah...That's it.


You have a sefer torah at home? eek
I don't think so...It's just normal.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:04 am


kingpinsqeezels
nathan_ngl
kingpinsqeezels
darkphoenix1247
soo...ahem, trying to get back on topic...


What kind of experience have people had with Judaism? Ex: What schooling, etc? 3nodding
None! Yay! I have a book and a torah...That's it.


You have a sefer torah at home? eek
I don't think so...It's just normal.


You mean a chumash? (The torah in a book).

A sefer torah is the big scroll with the torah written on parchment.

nathan_ngl
Crew


darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:50 am


I have one of the book ones myself 3nodding
PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:51 pm


nathan_ngl
kingpinsqeezels
nathan_ngl
kingpinsqeezels
darkphoenix1247
soo...ahem, trying to get back on topic...


What kind of experience have people had with Judaism? Ex: What schooling, etc? 3nodding
None! Yay! I have a book and a torah...That's it.


You have a sefer torah at home? eek
I don't think so...It's just normal.


You mean a chumash? (The torah in a book).

A sefer torah is the big scroll with the torah written on parchment.
Haha, alright. No, I don't have scrolls. I have no clue where you would buy something like that. blaugh

kingpinsqeezels


darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:38 am


The process behind simply making one of the scrolls is so fascinating- incredibly long, intricate, and amazing. I wonder how much a scroll Torah would cost, though? At least thousands of dollars, I guess? People spend like a year on each one sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:40 am


darkphoenix1247
The process behind simply making one of the scrolls is so fascinating- incredibly long, intricate, and amazing. I wonder how much a scroll Torah would cost, though? At least thousands of dollars, I guess? People spend like a year on each one sweatdrop


Only thousands? We're talking about tens of thousands xd .

nathan_ngl
Crew


kingpinsqeezels

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:12 pm


Wow...that's freakin' crazy! I want one that's like...32 dollars. Yay me!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:08 pm


nathan_ngl
darkphoenix1247
The process behind simply making one of the scrolls is so fascinating- incredibly long, intricate, and amazing. I wonder how much a scroll Torah would cost, though? At least thousands of dollars, I guess? People spend like a year on each one sweatdrop


Only thousands? We're talking about tens of thousands xd .
depends. a cheap, low quality one will sell for about 20k, whereas the masterpieces can reach 6 figures.

every single letter is inscribed with such care and devotion that most poeple simply aren't capable of. (and one mistake means you have to start all over. yeah)

codex versions of the torah have great sanctity (nothing other than another copy of it may rest on top of it), but a sefer torah, the torah scroll, is nothing short of holy. after completion, it's forbidden to touch the parchment with one's bare fingers, and if it's dropped, all present are obligated to fast every day for the next month.

ZonkotheSane


ZonkotheSane

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:10 pm


kingpinsqeezels
Wow...that's freakin' crazy! I want one that's like...32 dollars. Yay me!
buy a chumash (short for chamesha chumshe torah, the 5 volumes of torah, refering to the codex, or book form).

they cost like $15.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:10 pm


ZonkotheSane
kingpinsqeezels
Wow...that's freakin' crazy! I want one that's like...32 dollars. Yay me!
buy a chumash (short for chamesha chumshe torah, the 5 volumes of torah, refering to the codex, or book form).

they cost like $15.
it's large print because im blind. i think it's a student version too. with weird little sidenotes or something.

kingpinsqeezels


SKJC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:44 pm


I have the JPS Tanakh, and then a larger Artscroll Chumash with commentary.. And then a small library of books on various topics.. This is my booklist, in case any of the other converts-in-progress would like to know. I updated it recently..

Owned:
"Becoming a Jew" by Maurice Lamm
"Becoming Jewish: A Handbook For Conversion" by Rabbi Ronald H. Isaacs
"To Be a Jew" and "To Pray as a Jew" by Rabbi Hayim Halevy Donin
"The Synagogue Survival Kit" by Jordan Lee Wagner
"The Jewish Holidays" by Michael Strassfeld
"Jewish Literacy: The Most Important Things to Know About the Jewish Religion, Its People and Its History" by Joseph Telushkin
"A Guide to Jewish Prayer" by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz
"Halakhic Mind" by Joseph B. Soloveitchik
"Evolving Halakhah" by Moshe Zemer
"Everyman's Talmud" by Abraham Cohen
"Back To The Sources: Reading the Classic Jewish Texts" by Barry W. Holtz
"Introduction to Rabbinic Literature" by Jacob Neusner
"The Classic Midrash: Tannaitic Commentaries on the Bible" by Reuven Hammer
"How to Run a Traditional Jewish Household" by Blu Greenberg
"Muktzeh: A Practical Guide" by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen (Artscroll)
"The Shabbos Kitchen" by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen (Artscroll)
"The Shabbos Home" (1&2) by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen (Artscroll)
"The Laws of Yom Tov" by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen (Artscroll)
"The Laws of Kashrus" by Rabbi Binyaman Forst (Artscroll)
"Guide to Blessings: The Brochos for Various Foods" by Rabbi Naftali Hoftner
"Women and Jewish Law" by Rachel Biale
"To Be A Jewish Woman" by Lisa Aiken
"A Woman's Guide To The Laws Of Niddah" by Rabbi Binyoman Forst (Artscroll)
"A Return To Modesty: Rediscovering the Lost Virtue" by Wendy Shalit
"Defenders of the Faith: Inside Ultra-Orthodox Jewry" by Samuel Heilman

Read:
"Kosher For Everybody: The Complete Guide to Understanding, Shopping, Cooking, and Eating the Kosher Way" by Trudy Garfunkle
"Living a Jewish Life" and "Choosing a Jewish Life" by Anita Diamant
"Shabbat, 2nd Edition: The Family Guide to Preparing for and Welcoming the Sabbath" by Ron Wolfson

Borrowed from Libraries:
"The Rebbe's Army: Inside the World of Chabad-Lubavitch" by Sue Fishkoff
"Why The Jews" by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin
"Modesty: An Adornment For Life" by Rabbi Pesach Eliyahu Falk
"Boychiks In The Hood: Travels in the Hasidic Underground" by Robert Eisenberg
"The Women of the Talmud" by Judith Abrams

Textbooks I've used, read, or owned:
"A Maimonides Reader" by Isadore Twersky
"The Jewish Philosophy Reader" by Daniel Frank
"John F. Kennedy and Israel" by Herbert Drucks
"The Zionist Idea" by Arthur Hertzburg

Hebrew:
"Learn Hebrew Today: Aleph-Bet for Adults" by Paul Michael Yedwab
"Ha-Yesod: Fundamentals of Hebrew" by Luba Uveeler

I also like to listen to a lot of audio shiurim, mostly through Podcasts and AishAudio, and I get daily/weekly halacha and Torah/parsha classes via email from Aish, Torah.org, and a couple other places. I'm all for using the internet as a learning tool. xd
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:52 pm


i dont think i should quote that... thats a long list.

tsvi_tyl


nathan_ngl
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:53 am


ZonkotheSane
nathan_ngl
darkphoenix1247
The process behind simply making one of the scrolls is so fascinating- incredibly long, intricate, and amazing. I wonder how much a scroll Torah would cost, though? At least thousands of dollars, I guess? People spend like a year on each one sweatdrop


Only thousands? We're talking about tens of thousands xd .
depends. a cheap, low quality one will sell for about 20k, whereas the masterpieces can reach 6 figures.

every single letter is inscribed with such care and devotion that most poeple simply aren't capable of. (and one mistake means you have to start all over. yeah)

codex versions of the torah have great sanctity (nothing other than another copy of it may rest on top of it), but a sefer torah, the torah scroll, is nothing short of holy. after completion, it's forbidden to touch the parchment with one's bare fingers, and if it's dropped, all present are obligated to fast every day for the next month.

Of course, we're talking about day fasts, that last only about 12 hours (from sunrise to sunset). A person has to eat to survive you know... rolleyes . It almost happened once in my Yeshiva... gonk The magbeah lost his hold on the sefer and was like... "s**t! eek " rofl . Thank G-d someone helped him 3nodding

How about the sefer Torah of Ezra Ha'sofer? I'd say that could reach 8 figures easily.

The really high priced ones are usually because the writer does a tvila every time he reaches G-d's name in the torah... Alot of work xd .
PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:47 am


Silly question, I know, but if somebody wouldn't mind answering it: sweatdrop

Where would somebody learn how to write all of that? And what kind of training would they have to go through?

darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain


ZonkotheSane

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:16 pm


darkphoenix1247
Silly question, I know, but if somebody wouldn't mind answering it: sweatdrop

Where would somebody learn how to write all of that? And what kind of training would they have to go through?
how isn't very hard at all. it's just caligraphy, albeit extremely delicate. my father's currently writing (sofing?) a megillas esther.

it's the skill, expenses, and time that are difficult. a sefer torah uses about 100 yards of parchment, cut into (usually) about 2'x2.5' pieces. that's alot of cow.
also, it's a matter of personal devotion for the sofer (scribe). case in point: tefillah before inscribing the Shem
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