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 Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:14 pm
Quote: I disagree. It shouldn't matter why a person is offended by something; out of respect you fulfill the request not to do something if it's offensive. If running around naked in front of someone were offensive to them, but you thought of it as a wonderful, beautiful display of the human body, which God has made, would you keep doing it just because they had a stupid reason for being offended?? I should hope not. Well, no, (ignoring that that's against the law) you'd keep doing it because you believed it was beautiful, not to spite the person who was offended. Well, that's how I see it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:00 pm
You can keep doing it; my point is that you shouldn't do it around people who would be offended by it. Essentially, just use discretion.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:07 pm
Well I agree with that. Unless something horrible has happened, I imagine most people have the presence of mind to hold their tongue in front of people who would be very offended by cursing.
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:23 pm
On the same token, you don't know who in public that you're around may be offended by what you say ... I guess my point there is just try not to be like one of those people who curse after every word like it's a normal part of their vocabulary (and maybe it is). -shrug- It's just my opinion, really.
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:38 pm
I think that swearing normally, just as a part of your normal speech is bad. It will take away the meaning of the word, and we won't be able to fully express negative feelings (including pain). If you're running away from someone, and you run into telephone pole, saying "darn" won't sum it all up. I'm repeating myself at this point, but I can't help that continues to apply.
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:55 pm
i just think as christians we shouldnt cures b/c its looked down on as dirty and as christians we dont want to repersent that and of course the bible is against it so there u go.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:46 pm
What about me? I'm not chirstian. Can you think of a logical reason for someone not to swear?
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:52 pm
Dr. Kool What about me? I'm not chirstian. Can you think of a logical reason for someone not to swear? Why would we bother?
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:02 pm
For reason of debate. The idea of discussion and debate is to convince the other party of your point of view. So, I would you want to convince me. If you don't want to that, then what's the point of posting here?
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:16 pm
Dr. Kool For reason of debate. The idea of discussion and debate is to convince the other party of your point of view. So, I would you want to convince me. If you don't want to that, then what's the point of posting here? But there is no point. Even for those who do argue that swearing is a sin, that is a moral (A.K.A. intangible) judgement. No one can even hope to convince you of (part of) a morality you don't even believe. Besides, the question was 'is swearing a sin'. You, being non-christian really don't have much say in the conversation, aside from any biblical knowledge you may have picked up.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:48 am
You're right. But I just have to say that's just not a moral judgement; it is simply going along with what an old book says. I'm trying to help you think outside of your biblical box. Think of a moral or logical reason, rather than something from the bibe. That's all I'm doing.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:26 pm
But as Christians we can't think outside of our "biblical box" because all we know of Christianity besides the revelations the Holy Spirit gives us Himself is in the Bible- it is the written down Word of God, and is therefore the Truth. If you aren't a Christian then you can use any source you want to argue with because you already disagree with what's absolute. As Christians, however, we know what the Truth is and where to find it, and once we have it, we use it to reinforce our points. Why should we go elsewhere to look for evidence when we already have the strongest evidence of all? What you're asking for is Christians to come up with secular reasoning behind something that isn't secular.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:47 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly What you're asking for is Christians to come up with secular reasoning behind something that isn't secular. That is exactly what I'm trying to do. If nothing else, try to convince me that your "Truth" is actually the truth. The reason I discuss things is to further develop my beliefs. I'm sure you can understand. I won't think about things if I don't argue about them. I want secualr evidence because that's what I'll believe. Simple as that.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:57 pm
Well, unfortunately, I personally cannot offer that to you because I don't have a logical secular reasoning behind why people shouldn't swear. If you don't believe in something you aren't going to follow the customs and norms attached with it. I understand what you're trying to get at, but I'm not versed enough in philosophy to be able to explain things. Maybe someone else in here is and they can help you more than I can. I will try to take a stab at the idea behind absolute truth (and I know I'm going to totally kill it ninja ).
Basically if I say to you that there is absolute truth and you say to me that truth is relative, then technically I would be right and you would be wrong. Not because I'm biased or opinionated, but because it's the kind of paradox that works that way. If truth is relative (meaning that it could be anything depending on a person's view), then technically one of the truths could be that truth is absolute. If it's true that truth is absolute, then your argument is wrong. Then it all comes down to which truth is absolute, which goes into theology and I'm not going there because I have absolutely no ammunition in that field. sweatdrop
Let's look at it this way. Say I show you a blue pen. It's blue by the definition of the way the light waves bend and are reflected around it. If you're color blind, it doesn't change the fact that the pen is blue; the truth is that the pen is blue.
I guess ultimately ... just because a person doesn't know the truth or refuses to believe in the truth doesn't mean that that truth is wrong; it just means that that person doesn't know or doesn't believe that truth.
Yikes ... I know that was pithy, but it's the best I can do. confused
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:33 pm
if u want a non christian reason i think u should quit cursing its b/c it makes you sound dumber then u r. It makes u sound uneducated and unprofessional no one takes someone one seriously when their cursing their mouth off.
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