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 Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:07 am
Time wouldn't exist if not for us.
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:17 pm
true, time is a human invention and concept but its kind of weird to think about isn't it? I mean time exists regardless of mankind but the measurement of time is a man made device so the question becomes does time actually exist or is it simply a concept?
these are the things I think about...
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:25 pm
Maybe the reason time machines seem impossible is because we only think of time on our own terms. Maybe to travel through time, we need to figure out how the flow of time actually runs.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:16 pm
or if it actually runs, I mean if there were no beings capable of understanding the concept of time, would time continue?
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:11 pm
It would continue much the way it has all along. People just wouldn't view it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:20 pm
but if there is no one to view it and substantiate its presence, does it really exist? its the same question as a tree falling in the forest with no one around to hear it (that includes recording devices or any other method of observing it) does it make a sound? we can never actually know for sure.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:23 pm
Auditory sensations do not require receptors to occur.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:44 am
you have no proof of that though, you are simply making the assumption that since anytime we have observed a specific action it resulted in a sound but if there was no one there to confirm or deny that the sound occurred and no way to monitor it there is no way we can be certain.
its the same principle as placing a cat in a box with an unstable radioactive isotope. The cat is alive when you put it in the box but once the lid is closed an you can no longer observe it and you have no idea how long it would take the radiation to kill the cat then as long as the box remains closed the cat is both alive and dead.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:53 am
Actually, we are only forced to perceive the cat as being alive or dead, as we have no actual way of knowing. The cat itself, however, is in fact either alive or dead, as it possesses knowledge we do not.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:15 am
true but to the outside observer they must assume that the cat is both alive and dead at the same time. Since we are not the cat we can not possibly know if it is still alive or not.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:03 pm
Assuming that the cat is in a state of being both alive and dead is arrogant on the part of the observer. They should accept that the cat is either alive or dead, not a state of being both, and accept that they are unable to know which state it currently exists in.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:09 pm
maybe but I don't really think its arrogant, I think its more of accepting a lack of information and understanding that either is possible and could exist at the same time. until the box is opened you don't know for sure and so accepting both possible outcomes as plausible is really the only thing you can do.
here is a wiki link for more info on this specific line of thought, it works on quantum physics but I still think its pretty interesting/cool.
O.K so the link includes non-English letters so it wont post properly but just do a search for Schrödinger's cat on wiki and you should get right there.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:00 pm
Big long convezation make brain hurt.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:39 am
I can't wait till the 3DS comes out.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:50 am
please no one mention 4D again... I don't wana go through all that again sweatdrop
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