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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:30 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:34 pm
Atheistic Agnostic, I'm mostly atheistic towards Christianity, I still listen to other religions ideas. I'm just tired of the bad, old, and just plain stupid arguments I've heard from Christians over the years, not that I hate them. I just hate how they attempt to convert everybody they see.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:19 pm
My beliefs would identify themselves with a kind of carefully patched-together spirituality. I don't say "I am a..." because I'm trying to display that I may hold particular beliefs, but they do not hold me (they are not all of me) smile
My journey has been a bit of a strange one. A born (and natural) skeptic, I was trained to be religious since I was young by my strict, controlling father. I was raised Catholic, and remained devoted to it until I was in grade 9. Only then did I feel I truly had the freedom to think about my religion, do extensive reading, and ask thousands of questions (my nature as a skeptic razz ). Then, I found a great chasm between my religion and my supposed beliefs and how I actually acted in the world - my own personal honour code. It would be years before I could tell my father, who exploded, limited my connections with "subversive" extended family, threatened to monitor my reading and time with friends, and continued to force me to go to church every Sunday and participate in social gatherings. He still does all of those things to this day; he will as long as I live in his house, and he will probably attempt to "re-convert" far beyond that point. But my continued non-violent resistance (although I must conform to his rules, I do not speak in mass, nor receive communion, and I will never lie about my true beliefs) has mellowed the disagreement so it no longer hinders our good relations.
From his continuous attempts to fight me with theology, I have a great reason to hate Catholicism. But I do not.
My disagreements of the beliefs of Catholicism was quickly followed by a disagreement with the beliefs of every religion I could research. Mainly, my frustration stemmed from my hyper-awareness of hypocrisy, within the religion itself or how it contradicted with other religions.
I think that I would be an agnostic (my understanding of the word meaning someone who rejects religion/spirituality for themselves) if it had not been for my father's creation of a constant religious presence in my life, and for my own seemingly "supernatural" experiences.
Firstly comes my ability to see auras. I attempted to deny this fact when I was younger, and the auras were only pale, milky outlines. But now I have seen yellowy kaleidoscopes expanding meters around the person where nothing should be there. Secondly, I have experienced a voice speaking to me through meditation that I simply could not explain. It said things that always surprised or confused me (until had reflected further on the meaning), so it just was not logical that it was a voice from my own mind. Also, this voice...the words it said were so beautiful, it almost always makes me weep or seem to burst with joy. I cannot describe how much I love it. I really just...can't.
Oh my gosh, I have written a long post! I suppose I should try to define my beliefs then.
I guess I could say I believe in the golden rule, in equality, and in freedom. I accept everyone's beliefs and religions because they are all a part of the web of the human experience. I love everyone, because it makes me happy - no rules/punishments required. I love God because God (for me, the voice) and I are One, and We are one with the world. In this way, God also loves Me. I believe in eternal Life for all, but not as their own individual forms, which are momentary but necessary illusion. If everyone is One, than if one living thing - including God - lives, we all do. I don't believe in the literal sin, failure, "wrong"-ness, suffering or need for humans, or anything that lives. This means I do not believe in hell, which means by connection that I do not believe in heaven either. I believe in a flowing life force, as I have seen it in auras, and in elements (especially stones). I believe in the limitless capacity of Life to heal and create. I value heavily the right of each individual person to lead their own lives. I do not wish to worship one particular person (or divinity) as I see equal value in every single person, no matter who. I find purpose in equal discussion about spirituality, and in community service.
If you know something that would suit me, perhaps you can recommend me to a website? That would be much appreciated. smile
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:01 pm
Okay a confusing way to say this but I will say it anyway.
You can't say I'm religious because I'm not but I personally believe you can't classify me as an Atheist. Although I agree with the point of view on that side much better, I believe that the term religion is just a separation of many things that divides us more then we already look at ourselves. One is said to have to be a definite something but just because you are something of that foreground doesn't mean you only believe in such things right?
It makes sense. There being no god because what is the scientific evidence there for if there isn't a god. Secondly if Heaven is represented by the sky then how do you explain everything that was outside the earth before "god" or "the gods" created them? I understand that it would makes sense that there should be a reason in the first place for the materials to come to be in the first place and that would in turn show another question of where did those come from and where did those come from. So a god can easily eliminate those questions. But what would god be then? Using god in the description defiantly doesn't help me.
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:16 pm
As of now, I call myself an Eclectic Neo-Pagan. I haven't been studying or practicing long enough (about 8 months) to decide on any particular pantheon or tradition in Neo-Paganism. I try to research online & through libraries as much as I can, but being broke & living with my very Christian mother makes for a difficult Pagan learning environment, unfortunately :/ I try to rely on the Pagan friends I've made & their community for support.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:29 am
Well I'm Pagan and a follower of Dionysus. I enjoy my faith and my God makes life interesting.
I also used to be married to an Apostolic Preacher so I can answer the question of what makes someone Apostolic. It means they believe that there is one god and his name is Jesus. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit make up one entity. Mostly the rest of Christianity believe in the Holy Trinity which makes those three separate entities that act in accord. They also believe you must be baptized in the name of Jesus and that you will receive the holy ghost. (talking in tongues) And of course you must repent. The three steps to salvation as it were.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:58 am
I believe in the One in the All!!!
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:42 pm
is catholic not a subset of christen beliefs?
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:51 pm
... i find it funny that they have Islam and Muslim both as options on the poll. xd
FYI, thread-maker: a Muslim is a person who follows the religion Islam.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:27 am
I find it funny that the argument has been made 3 times already and you didn't read the thread just the poll and then commented.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:58 pm
i actually DID read the thread's first post, and commented earlier. the mention of the mistake in the poll was NOT my first post on here. please to be paying more attention dear, instead of talking out of your a**. stare
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:07 pm
Wow you people are supposed to be religious?
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:17 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:33 pm
@ grand priest: not i, said the cat!
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:36 pm
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