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 Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:34 pm
Zeus, at a young age, was probably one of the most badassed generals ever during the Titan War, wasn't he?[along with his siblings, including Poseidon and Hades, plus Hera, Demeter and Hestia!] And that was at his prime years!
I am beginning to see where the likes of alot of his leaders-for-descendants inherited a lot of their badassery from, right there.
I feel that i barely know the Olympians and the other factions of Immortals in Olympian Lore, very well.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:40 pm
General is a stretch of a term, the Kronides were mostly a unified force against their Titan predecessors, but I'm sure the others looked up to (or down to, since he was the youngest) Zeus as the chosen one of Ouranos' prophecy. I am rather intrigued by the time before the war, when he was just a boy in a goatskin, weaponless, raised in secret, destined to shake the foundations of the universe, but standing alone with his siblings in the belly of his father and all the titanic forces of the universe arrayed against him.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:56 pm
Akherontis General is a stretch of a term, the Kronides were mostly a unified force against their Titan predecessors, but I'm sure the others looked up to (or down to, since he was the youngest) Zeus as the chosen one of Ouranos' prophecy. I am rather intrigued by the time before the war, when he was just a boy in a goatskin, weaponless, raised in secret, destined to shake the foundations of the universe, but standing alone with his siblings in the belly of his father and all the titanic forces of the universe arrayed against him. If it helps, i heard that Lugh of the Tuatha De Dannan went against the same kind of odds, but there's some differences between Zeus' or Lugh's cases though, despite the common grounds like how both had to fight their respective relative who needs to be ripped to shreds! Both of the times they had during their respective wars has epic video game or movie-making[or even anime-creating] potential, that if done right, it will be the stuff of legends! Bioware should sign up for doing video games based on both their respective times!!! Kronos shot himself in the foot the moment he tried to eat his children, but if i had to guess, the Titan War was extremely rushed, despite the 10-year timespan! In some versions, wasn't Hera said to have also avoided getting eaten by Kronos, as well? If these versions are legit, then the wars are less rushed than we give them credit for, because if we were to take the Aphrodite Urania origin story to be canon, they may have met Aphrodite during that time, and seeing as how Aphrodite is said to be older, it may explain Hera's distrust of Aphrodite, right?
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:59 pm
Celtic Mythology, unfortunately, (especially the Invasion Cycle) has survived in far too fragmented, convoluted and christianized a form to be able to successfully make into a modern epic conflict without HUGE amounts of guesswork. This was my partially successful attempt to create a family tree of the Irish pantheon: 
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:09 pm
Akherontis Celtic Mythology, unfortunately, (especially the Invasion Cycle) has survived in far too fragmented, convoluted and christianized a form to be able to successfully make into a modern epic conflict without HUGE amounts of guesswork. This was my partially successful attempt to create a family tree of the Irish pantheon: The Welsh also respected the Celtic Gods, as well, seeing as they were closer to their Celtic Lineage than even the Irish were, if i heard right. YIKES!!!! The Olympian Pantheon got lucky that their genealogies are still somewhat straight-forwarded enough to be traced, right? That's another difference right there. It looks like they may need more than one branch of Bioware to deal with in order to create a modern epic conflict out of Lugh's early days when his grandfather, Balor, was creating havoc out of the same kind of circumstances that Kronos swallowed most of his children for. gonk Except he didn't eat his daughter[Lugh's mum!] but that's not the main point. All those factions of the Celtic Gods, and for the most part, none of them are straightforward except for being cousins marrying cousins[plus the occasional Celtic Demigods, most of whom are stronger than Olympian Demigods who weren't the likes of the children of Zeus or Poseidon, or the likes of Achilles or Aeneas, for that matter, no offense, i hope!] All that's cleared was that Lugh had to prove himself to the Tuatha De Dannan before he could join them, and then he joins them in war against his grandfather Balor, eventually! Plus, Lugh is King Dagda's Nephew! Plus after the war[at some point] he was the father of Cuchulain[who's as epic win as Hercules, Achilles, and Aeneas, combined!] who fought against entire armies by himself! But back with Zeus, what else did he and his siblings do during the war?
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:15 pm
Haha, but are we forgetting the heroics of Nuadha, Oghma and Dagda? Up until the second battle of Mag Tureadh, they were the champions of the Tuatha de Danann.
Welsh mythology is even HARDER to genealogize than Irish, and I've given up trying to work out how the Goidelic and Bretonic pantheons FIT TOGETHER. At most, Lir can be equated with Llyr, Nuadha with Lludd, and Epona with Rhiannon. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. Is Arawn one of the Fomoraigh, or the Dananns? Is Bres related to Dagda, or are their cauldrons merely coincidental? How do the Coranied and the story of Llefelys fit in? And so on. Nightmare.
As for the Titanomakhy, it was pretty much just a war campaign. Nothing much else went on, apart from various deities working out where their allegiances lay.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:21 pm
Akherontis Haha, but are we forgetting the heroics of Nuadha, Oghma and Dagda? Up until the second battle of Mag Tureadh, they were the champions of the Tuatha de Danann. Welsh mythology is even HARDER to genealogize than Irish, and I've given up trying to work out how the Goidelic and Bretonic pantheons FIT TOGETHER. At most, Lir can be equated with Llyr, Nuadha with Lludd, and Epona with Rhiannon. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. Is Arawn one of the Fomoraigh, or the Dananns? Is Bres related to Dagda, or are their cauldrons merely coincidental? How do the Coranied and the story of Llefelys fit in? And so on. Nightmare. As for the Titanomakhy, it was pretty much just a war campaign. Nothing much else went on, apart from various deities working out where their allegiances lay. Nuadha, Oghma, and Dagda[the 3 kings of the Tuatha De Dannan!] are badasses, enough said on them, aside from one of them being Lugh's Paternal Grandfather, while Balor doesn't deserve Lugh as a grandson! cool Which one of the 3 came up with unleashing the Warp Spasms for the first time, that Cuchulainn and other Celtic Heroes learned to unleash, later on? And the Original 6 Olympians trying to figure out which Immortals to trust, and which ones to fight, right? If Aphrodite existed before the Original 6 Olympians, i can imagine the distrust that the Goddesses among the 6 children of Kronos would display towards her, and even more so if it was during the Titanomachy, no less.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:31 pm
Well, there were ten kings of the Tuatha de Danann, not three, and Oghma was never one of them. He was the inventor of Ogham, the druidic language, and the bard of the Dananns. As for the Riastradh, the battle frenzy, that trait belonged to Cuchulainn alone. It's highly likely that the Dananns were capable of such abilites, however, given that they are the ancestors of the Faerie Folk.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:08 pm
Akherontis Well, there were ten kings of the Tuatha de Danann, not three, and Oghma was never one of them. He was the inventor of Ogham, the druidic language, and the bard of the Dananns. As for the Riastradh, the battle frenzy, that trait belonged to Cuchulainn alone. It's highly likely that the Dananns were capable of such abilites, however, given that they are the ancestors of the Faerie Folk. With the Riastradh, one could take on armies by themselves, right? I heard that other Celtic warriors were capable of unleashing the Riastradh, as well[Arthur is debatable, though, as is Lancelot!] but if so, we know less about them than we know about Cuchulainn's extents, since Cuchulain's extents must have been really glorious to behold in shock and awe, right? If i may ask, if you have to choose to have on your side the likes of Hercules, Achilles, and Aeneas, and going for Cuchulainn, which would you rather have, overall, in a war against a lethal enemy in which you must gain demigod aid?
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:09 am
Javier Cross With the Riastradh, one could take on armies by themselves, right? I heard that other Celtic warriors were capable of unleashing the Riastradh, as well[Arthur is debatable, though, as is Lancelot!] but if so, we know less about them than we know about Cuchulainn's extents, since Cuchulain's extents must have been really glorious to behold in shock and awe, right? If i may ask, if you have to choose to have on your side the likes of Hercules, Achilles, and Aeneas, and going for Cuchulainn, which would you rather have, overall, in a war against a lethal enemy in which you must gain demigod aid? Not quite, although there was a similar concept in Scandinavia, the Beserker or 'Bear shirt'. Cuchulainn isn't a demigod, because the Celtic pantheon consisted of elves from the otherworld, not quite gods themselves. I would conjecture to say he was a Skifting or a Changeling, with Faerie glamour coursing in the blood of his veins rather than divine Ikhor.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:24 am
Akherontis Javier Cross With the Riastradh, one could take on armies by themselves, right? I heard that other Celtic warriors were capable of unleashing the Riastradh, as well[Arthur is debatable, though, as is Lancelot!] but if so, we know less about them than we know about Cuchulainn's extents, since Cuchulain's extents must have been really glorious to behold in shock and awe, right? If i may ask, if you have to choose to have on your side the likes of Hercules, Achilles, and Aeneas, and going for Cuchulainn, which would you rather have, overall, in a war against a lethal enemy in which you must gain demigod aid? Not quite, although there was a similar concept in Scandinavia, the Berserker or 'Bear shirt'. Cuchulainn isn't a demigod, because the Celtic pantheon consisted of elves from the otherworld, not quite gods themselves. I would conjecture to say he was a Skifting or a Changeling, with Faerie glamour coursing in the blood of his veins rather than divine Ikhor. Wasn't Arthur also said to be descended from Scandinavian Warriors, as well? This is bad, we can't even recall the overall species of immortals that the Celtic Pantheon was. gonk All that was cleared up was that Lugh was a Quartre-Formorian, [or was it half-Formorian] but beyond that, not much else.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:27 am
Javier Cross Akherontis Javier Cross With the Riastradh, one could take on armies by themselves, right? I heard that other Celtic warriors were capable of unleashing the Riastradh, as well[Arthur is debatable, though, as is Lancelot!] but if so, we know less about them than we know about Cuchulainn's extents, since Cuchulain's extents must have been really glorious to behold in shock and awe, right? If i may ask, if you have to choose to have on your side the likes of Hercules, Achilles, and Aeneas, and going for Cuchulainn, which would you rather have, overall, in a war against a lethal enemy in which you must gain demigod aid? Not quite, although there was a similar concept in Scandinavia, the Berserker or 'Bear shirt'. Cuchulainn isn't a demigod, because the Celtic pantheon consisted of elves from the otherworld, not quite gods themselves. I would conjecture to say he was a Skifting or a Changeling, with Faerie glamour coursing in the blood of his veins rather than divine Ikhor. Wasn't Arthur also said to be descended from Scandinavian Warriors, as well? This is bad, we can't even recall the overall species of immortals that the Celtic Pantheon was. gonk All that was cleared up was that Lugh was a Quartre-Formorian, [or was it half-Formorian] but beyond that, not much else. That's Fomorian, lose the r. But the Tuatha de Danann and the Fomoraigh came from the same Otherworld and appear to be different branches of the same family. The matron goddess of the Dananns was Danu, while the Fomorians (who were also called the Tuathe de Domhainn) had Domnaan or Domhu. Danu and Domhu are essentially aspects of each other. The only name we have for the Celtic Pantheon other than the names of their tribes is the name which they came to be known by after they retreated into the earth; the Daoine Sidhe.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:38 am
Akherontis Javier Cross Akherontis Javier Cross With the Riastradh, one could take on armies by themselves, right? I heard that other Celtic warriors were capable of unleashing the Riastradh, as well[Arthur is debatable, though, as is Lancelot!] but if so, we know less about them than we know about Cuchulainn's extents, since Cuchulain's extents must have been really glorious to behold in shock and awe, right? If i may ask, if you have to choose to have on your side the likes of Hercules, Achilles, and Aeneas, and going for Cuchulainn, which would you rather have, overall, in a war against a lethal enemy in which you must gain demigod aid? Not quite, although there was a similar concept in Scandinavia, the Berserker or 'Bear shirt'. Cuchulainn isn't a demigod, because the Celtic pantheon consisted of elves from the otherworld, not quite gods themselves. I would conjecture to say he was a Skifting or a Changeling, with Faerie glamour coursing in the blood of his veins rather than divine Ikhor. Wasn't Arthur also said to be descended from Scandinavian Warriors, as well? This is bad, we can't even recall the overall species of immortals that the Celtic Pantheon was. gonk All that was cleared up was that Lugh was a Quartre-Formorian, [or was it half-Formorian] but beyond that, not much else. That's Fomorian, lose the r. But the Tuatha de Danann and the Fomoraigh came from the same Otherworld and appear to be different branches of the same family. The matron goddess of the Dananns was Danu, while the Fomorians (who were also called the Tuathe de Domhainn) had Domnaan or Domhu. Danu and Domhu are essentially aspects of each other. The only name we have for the Celtic Pantheon other than the names of their tribes is the name which they came to be known by after they retreated into the earth; the Daoine Sidhe. Do you think the Daoine Sidhe will ever show themselves again, if they're still alive? You mean the general pantheon's existence is less straightforward than the Olympian or Scandinavian Pantheons? That sounds worse than i thought.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:41 am
Javier Cross Do you think the Daoine Sidhe will ever show themselves again, if they're still alive? You mean the general pantheon's existence is less straightforward than the Olympian or Scandinavian Pantheons? That sounds worse than i thought. Well no, they're not real in the first place. You don't think they are, do you? But in fiction, of course the People reappear. They're called Fairy tales for a reason. This thread is a bit off topic now, don't you think?
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:52 am
Akherontis Javier Cross Do you think the Daoine Sidhe will ever show themselves again, if they're still alive? You mean the general pantheon's existence is less straightforward than the Olympian or Scandinavian Pantheons? That sounds worse than i thought. Well no, they're not real in the first place. You don't think they are, do you? But in fiction, of course the People reappear. They're called Fairy tales for a reason. This thread is a bit off topic now, don't you think? Agreed, we need to get back on Zeus, Poseidon and Hades, A.S.A.P[As soon as possible!] So about Poseidon, how come between Zeus and Poseidon, they tend to unleash more collateral damages than Hades does, again?
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