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 Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm
I think he means punk as-in was scared of taking hits..
I don't know the answer because I didn't watch a whole lot of Montana clips.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:43 pm
Well, Montana was a very nice guy. And Montana took some good hits, but he was mainly a Scrambling QB so he usually avoided hits.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:17 pm
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 Well, Montana was a very nice guy. And Montana took some good hits, but he was mainly a Scrambling QB so he usually avoided hits. From what I had seen out of all his clips including when he played for the Chiefs at the end of his career is that he was not a scrambling QB as much as he was an out of pocket QB if you can understand what I am trying to say. He only went out when his pocket collapsed and scrambled to only get away from people or make that crucial 1st down. Otherwise he stayed back. So he would mostly be called a Pocket QB.
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:21 am
From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:50 pm
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it. In order to be claimed a scrambling QB, that would require him to have been a lot more like Steve Young. Montana did not run near as much as Young did. A pocket passer does not necessarily mean that he has to throw from just the pocket, he can throw outside the pocket as well. Just not run that often to gain first downs.
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:40 pm
Is Vince Young related to Steve Young?
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:19 pm
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 Is Vince Young related to Steve Young? NO.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:22 am
vegito61283 Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it. In order to be claimed a scrambling QB, that would require him to have been a lot more like Steve Young. Montana did not run near as much as Young did. A pocket passer does not necessarily mean that he has to throw from just the pocket, he can throw outside the pocket as well. Just not run that often to gain first downs. Yeah Vick (sorry a** QB) was a scrambler and Tony Romo is a Pocket passer (even if he never stays inside it).
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:52 pm
Oreion vegito61283 Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it. In order to be claimed a scrambling QB, that would require him to have been a lot more like Steve Young. Montana did not run near as much as Young did. A pocket passer does not necessarily mean that he has to throw from just the pocket, he can throw outside the pocket as well. Just not run that often to gain first downs. Yeah Vick (sorry a** QB) was a scrambler and Tony Romo is a Pocket passer (even if he never stays inside it). That is correct. Now if you look at McNabb, he is an all around. He can do it all in every aspect. So could Rothlisbuger. But none of them will ever be anywhere near the ultimate QB of all time. RANDALL CUNNINGHAM!!!
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:57 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:58 am
vegito61283 Oreion vegito61283 Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it. In order to be claimed a scrambling QB, that would require him to have been a lot more like Steve Young. Montana did not run near as much as Young did. A pocket passer does not necessarily mean that he has to throw from just the pocket, he can throw outside the pocket as well. Just not run that often to gain first downs. Yeah Vick (sorry a** QB) was a scrambler and Tony Romo is a Pocket passer (even if he never stays inside it). That is correct. Now if you look at McNabb, he is an all around. He can do it all in every aspect. So could Rothlisbuger. But none of them will ever be anywhere near the ultimate QB of all time. RANDALL CUNNINGHAM!!! hahaha that's great stuff. No the greatest is Unitas, until Manning retires then he will be.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:16 am
Oreion vegito61283 Oreion vegito61283 Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it. In order to be claimed a scrambling QB, that would require him to have been a lot more like Steve Young. Montana did not run near as much as Young did. A pocket passer does not necessarily mean that he has to throw from just the pocket, he can throw outside the pocket as well. Just not run that often to gain first downs. Yeah Vick (sorry a** QB) was a scrambler and Tony Romo is a Pocket passer (even if he never stays inside it). That is correct. Now if you look at McNabb, he is an all around. He can do it all in every aspect. So could Rothlisbuger. But none of them will ever be anywhere near the ultimate QB of all time. RANDALL CUNNINGHAM!!! hahaha that's great stuff. No the greatest is Unitas, until Manning retires then he will be. You completely missed my entire point on the subject. Unitas was not the greatest pocket passer and neither is Manning. Marino was. Did all that in less time than Favre did. When I said Randall Cunningham, he was the ultimate QB because he could hurt you in every way imaginable. He could kick (did punts), pass, rush, and catch all along with blocking down field. That guy would school ANY QB in beating a team out. The only problem was that every team he was on was missing pieces to the puzzle. You put him on Philly right now or Colts or even the Chargers, they are pretty clost to being the automatic SB Champs. He was that good. If you ever watched him, you would know what I am talking about.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:33 am
vegito61283 Oreion vegito61283 Oreion vegito61283 Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 From all the clips I saw he actually usually threw out of the pocket more so than in it. In order to be claimed a scrambling QB, that would require him to have been a lot more like Steve Young. Montana did not run near as much as Young did. A pocket passer does not necessarily mean that he has to throw from just the pocket, he can throw outside the pocket as well. Just not run that often to gain first downs. Yeah Vick (sorry a** QB) was a scrambler and Tony Romo is a Pocket passer (even if he never stays inside it). That is correct. Now if you look at McNabb, he is an all around. He can do it all in every aspect. So could Rothlisbuger. But none of them will ever be anywhere near the ultimate QB of all time. RANDALL CUNNINGHAM!!! hahaha that's great stuff. No the greatest is Unitas, until Manning retires then he will be. You completely missed my entire point on the subject. Unitas was not the greatest pocket passer and neither is Manning. Marino was. Did all that in less time than Favre did. When I said Randall Cunningham, he was the ultimate QB because he could hurt you in every way imaginable. He could kick (did punts), pass, rush, and catch all along with blocking down field. That guy would school ANY QB in beating a team out. The only problem was that every team he was on was missing pieces to the puzzle. You put him on Philly right now or Colts or even the Chargers, they are pretty clost to being the automatic SB Champs. He was that good. If you ever watched him, you would know what I am talking about.
You could be the most athletic QB ever and do every physically demanding element the position requires of you, but having that X factor to rally a team behind you in even the worst of situations and win is what separates the great quarterbacks like Cunningham, from the legendary ones.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:46 am
You forget completely that Bartt Star and Montana as well as P. Manning as well all had the best offenses to fall back on and including defenses that could bail you out in the end as well. Randall never had that. The Eagles teams that he was on had only adequate to sub-par at the very best teams and he elevated them to practically playoff teams where they never would have gone to the playoffs without him. That is why Randall is so much better. He did much much more with much much worse almost bottom feeding teams. None of them could or ever would be able to do that ever.
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:20 pm
vegito61283 You forget completely that Bartt Star and Montana as well as P. Manning as well all had the best offenses to fall back on and including defenses that could bail you out in the end as well. Randall never had that. The Eagles teams that he was on had only adequate to sub-par at the very best teams and he elevated them to practically playoff teams where they never would have gone to the playoffs without him. That is why Randall is so much better. He did much much more with much much worse almost bottom feeding teams. None of them could or ever would be able to do that ever.
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