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| No, it hurts their image, and then they can't convince people to love |
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| Yes, it enhances their sense of love and peace, then they can pass it on |
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 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:13 pm
Tree_Beatle_Maiden I'm sorry if I've lumped anyone into any category, or come across as extremely arrogant. This is simply an opinion of mine that I feel very strongly about. For your information, I have not learned all this stuff from D.A.R.E., although I do think that it's a respectable program. If you haven't noticed, I appear to be the only one on this forum to have presented my reasons in actual scientific terms. Even if you did present hard-core scientific evidence on the safety of drugs, I would not start doing them myself. And don't act like I haven't had any experience with the dangers of these substances. While I'll admit I haven't taken them personally, I know people who have. My own mother has suffered numerous times because someone she knew decided to take drugs. She was raped as an eleven year-old girl by her cousins who used drugs, and nearly raped again in college by a friend who was drunk. Drugs hurt people; ask nearly anyone in mainstream society, and they'll agree. Sometimes doctors are right. And you really should be more considerate when talking directly to people with strong opinions. I refuse to post again on this thread, and if I get kicked out of this guild or lose any potential friends I don't care. I stick by what I believe. Thats some bad s**t thats happend, but I can garuntee you they werent high on wed, or just weed. No ones going to kick you out, no worrys about that, to get kicked out you basiclky have to be constantly offending people, and your a good poster in this guild so thats not going to happen any time soon. All my evidence is off erowind, whatever is called, and the few people that Ive talked to know the sites so I dont bother cut and pasting stuff.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:59 pm
All this proves is that there are some real shitbags who like to get high. There are also some real shitbags who like to eat Cheerios. Every group has its bad apples.
EDIT: silly insensitive me, what I meant to say is that those who try to excuse abominable acts by hiding behind their drug use are especially despicable. All actions have consequences. The universe doesn't care if you're stoned or straight; some deeds are inexcusable. As an example, peeing on the carpet while in an alcoholic blackout is a minor offense compared to first-degree murder committed by someone who has consumed several wine coolers beforehand.
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:38 pm
^_^ we sure should...it opens your mind and gives a release
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:44 am
we allow alochol in america. why not weed?? alcohol is actaully waaay more Dangerously effective and waaay more leathal/addictive than pot. My cousin did both, he smoked pot and then did alcohol, he smoked for years and altho yes its bad for you he didnt get messed up or start doing nasty things untill he was drinking. Altho weed is a great pain killer and seditive and I think it should be leagalized, evne if I dont want to smoke it all the time. Its just liek smoking cigarettes, not any better not any worse, altho the out come is much more plesant. altho some times they are dangerous, thats why you use them carefully or around someone who isnt stoned, especially if you are not used to them. i have a pob w/ stronger drugs, but pot doesnt seem that bad.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:51 am
missfear I think hippies should only do acid, mushrooms and pot but not other drugs. Well not really, but I kind of think of those three as the *hippie* drugs. But do what you want, drugs can be heaps of fun. wink your leaving out alot of other valueable psychedellics and others...AMT, DMT, DPT, MDA, MDMA, LSA, Ketamine, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 2C-I (many other 2C-? reseach chemicals), Iboga, Salvia Divinorum, Mescaline, 5-MeO-DMT, Fly Agaric mushrooms, AET...ok Im gonna stop now cause I think you get the picture
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:37 pm
Sand Opal we allow alochol in america. why not weed?? alcohol is actaully waaay more Dangerously effective and waaay more leathal/addictive than pot. My cousin did both, he smoked pot and then did alcohol, he smoked for years and altho yes its bad for you he didnt get messed up or start doing nasty things untill he was drinking. Altho weed is a great pain killer and seditive and I think it should be leagalized, evne if I dont want to smoke it all the time. Its just liek smoking cigarettes, not any better not any worse, altho the out come is much more plesant. altho some times they are dangerous, thats why you use them carefully or around someone who isnt stoned, especially if you are not used to them. i have a pob w/ stronger drugs, but pot doesnt seem that bad. Very well said, luv! Preach on, sistah. wink ~Mouse~
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:39 pm
Soymilk_Gun missfear I think hippies should only do acid, mushrooms and pot but not other drugs. Well not really, but I kind of think of those three as the *hippie* drugs. But do what you want, drugs can be heaps of fun. wink your leaving out alot of other valueable psychedellics and others...AMT, DMT, DPT, MDA, MDMA, LSA, Ketamine, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 2C-I (many other 2C-? reseach chemicals), Iboga, Salvia Divinorum, Mescaline, 5-MeO-DMT, Fly Agaric mushrooms, AET...ok Im gonna stop now cause I think you get the picture A lot of those research chems are crap. 5-MEO-AMT is some particularly evil s**t. I'm not too thrilled about MDMA either. Don't mean to come down on you, but just because something makes you see colors doesn't mean it is "valuable". All I'm saying is, look before you leap.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:57 pm
Sand Opal we allow alochol in america. why not weed?? alcohol is actaully waaay more Dangerously effective and waaay more leathal/addictive than pot. My cousin did both, he smoked pot and then did alcohol, he smoked for years and altho yes its bad for you he didnt get messed up or start doing nasty things untill he was drinking. Altho weed is a great pain killer and seditive and I think it should be leagalized, evne if I dont want to smoke it all the time. Its just liek smoking cigarettes, not any better not any worse, altho the out come is much more plesant. altho some times they are dangerous, thats why you use them carefully or around someone who isnt stoned, especially if you are not used to them. i have a pob w/ stronger drugs, but pot doesnt seem that bad. well, if weed was legal than, 1. Our government couldn't get much for it 2. Then people would be able to grow a plant that provides food, clothing, clean burning fuels, medicince and recreation FOR FREE! Think about how much money big corportions would lose! We couldn't have that now could we ? rolleyes It's all about control! I personally don't smoke weed but I think it can be used responsibly and constructively in many ways! I also think it can be overused as well. But then again, what can't be overused? What about soda? Sex? chocolatte? I think legalizing it'd be fine. Alchohol and cigarettes should be illegal if anything. Hell, I think skippy peanut butter or chemical fertilizers should be illegal! There are many'a things in this world worse for you and the environment than pot, and hydrogenated oils happen to be one of them.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:36 pm
TheArgus Soymilk_Gun missfear I think hippies should only do acid, mushrooms and pot but not other drugs. Well not really, but I kind of think of those three as the *hippie* drugs. But do what you want, drugs can be heaps of fun. wink your leaving out alot of other valueable psychedellics and others...AMT, DMT, DPT, MDA, MDMA, LSA, Ketamine, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 2C-I (many other 2C-? reseach chemicals), Iboga, Salvia Divinorum, Mescaline, 5-MeO-DMT, Fly Agaric mushrooms, AET...ok Im gonna stop now cause I think you get the picture A lot of those research chems are crap. 5-MEO-AMT is some particularly evil s**t. I'm not too thrilled about MDMA either. Don't mean to come down on you, but just because something makes you see colors doesn't mean it is "valuable". All I'm saying is, look before you leap. some individuals may find a particular substance (or combination there of) useful while others may not. MDMA has been show to be quite useful in treatment of post traumatic stress and such...other than medical perposes such as that i dont beleive it to be to useful as a conciousness expanding or exploratory drug unless used in combination with another substance...MDMA added to another psychedellic can really change the tone of a trip...yes Im sure most of the psycoactive reseach chemicals they have come up with are fairly useless (undesirable or side effects out weight the desired effects, to similar to other substances to be interesting in and of itself, or just gives a plain shitty trip). The individual should be the one deciding which substances they find valuable and useful to themselves (if they chose to use psycoactive substances at all)...it takes time, an open mind, research, and a good hook up of course
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:39 pm
KappaKaeru What about soda? Sex? chocolatte? well soda and chocolate do contain addictive chemicals and sex causes your body to release certain chemicals that can be fairly similar to certain drugs
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:15 pm
Soymilk_Gun TheArgus Soymilk_Gun missfear I think hippies should only do acid, mushrooms and pot but not other drugs. Well not really, but I kind of think of those three as the *hippie* drugs. But do what you want, drugs can be heaps of fun. wink your leaving out alot of other valueable psychedellics and others...AMT, DMT, DPT, MDA, MDMA, LSA, Ketamine, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 2C-I (many other 2C-? reseach chemicals), Iboga, Salvia Divinorum, Mescaline, 5-MeO-DMT, Fly Agaric mushrooms, AET...ok Im gonna stop now cause I think you get the picture A lot of those research chems are crap. 5-MEO-AMT is some particularly evil s**t. I'm not too thrilled about MDMA either. Don't mean to come down on you, but just because something makes you see colors doesn't mean it is "valuable". All I'm saying is, look before you leap. some individuals may find a particular substance (or combination there of) useful while others may not. MDMA has been show to be quite useful in treatment of post traumatic stress and such...other than medical perposes such as that i dont beleive it to be to useful as a conciousness expanding or exploratory drug unless used in combination with another substance...MDMA added to another psychedellic can really change the tone of a trip...yes Im sure most of the psycoactive reseach chemicals they have come up with are fairly useless (undesirable or side effects out weight the desired effects, to similar to other substances to be interesting in and of itself, or just gives a plain shitty trip). The individual should be the one deciding which substances they find valuable and useful to themselves (if they chose to use psycoactive substances at all)...it takes time, an open mind, research, and a good hook up of course right on.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:24 pm
I've debated this a lot. Internally. And I've concluded that there are at least two types of uses for recreational drug usage.
1. The pothead, pothead. A clear example would be my sister. She smokes endlessly all the time for no reason. She is irresponsible and this is a big one HAS NO OTHER HOBBIES except for smoking weed or whatever other drugs she chooses to consume.
2. The experimental pothead. The every once in a while, a couple times a week, at a party or a few times on the weekends drug users. This is where I would fall in. I have a 3.4 gpa at a top university and I am pre-med. Some might say that I am a rather respectable individual.
Now, as soon as I get off of gaia I plan on smoking a bowl before I do my calculus homework. Does that make me bad? Will that make me a bad doctor? Probably not. It might make me a bad doctor if I smoke weed at a hospital while I am performing surgery. That would put me in category 1.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:26 am
headacheartist I've debated this a lot. Internally. And I've concluded that there are at least two types of uses for recreational drug usage. 1. The pothead, pothead. A clear example would be my sister. She smokes endlessly all the time for no reason. She is irresponsible and this is a big one HAS NO OTHER HOBBIES except for smoking weed or whatever other drugs she chooses to consume. 2. The experimental pothead. The every once in a while, a couple times a week, at a party or a few times on the weekends drug users. This is where I would fall in. I have a 3.4 gpa at a top university and I am pre-med. Some might say that I am a rather respectable individual. Now, as soon as I get off of gaia I plan on smoking a bowl before I do my calculus homework. Does that make me bad? Will that make me a bad doctor? Probably not. It might make me a bad doctor if I smoke weed at a hospital while I am performing surgery. That would put me in category 1. you left out the people who use psychedellics for self-exploration and concioussness expanding. There are alot of modern day shamans out there
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:49 pm
Soymilk_Gun headacheartist I've debated this a lot. Internally. And I've concluded that there are at least two types of uses for recreational drug usage. 1. The pothead, pothead. A clear example would be my sister. She smokes endlessly all the time for no reason. She is irresponsible and this is a big one HAS NO OTHER HOBBIES except for smoking weed or whatever other drugs she chooses to consume. 2. The experimental pothead. The every once in a while, a couple times a week, at a party or a few times on the weekends drug users. This is where I would fall in. I have a 3.4 gpa at a top university and I am pre-med. Some might say that I am a rather respectable individual. Now, as soon as I get off of gaia I plan on smoking a bowl before I do my calculus homework. Does that make me bad? Will that make me a bad doctor? Probably not. It might make me a bad doctor if I smoke weed at a hospital while I am performing surgery. That would put me in category 1. you left out the people who use psychedellics for self-exploration and concioussness expanding. There are alot of modern day shamans out there that falls under experimental/mind expanding, which is number 2.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:35 pm
Isnt it un-hippish to say what someone peopel should or shouldnt do? wasnt a big motto of the hippies and yippies "Do your own thing"...isnt it pretty darn pointless to even discuss wheter hippies as a whole should or shouldnt do drugs...its about being yourself dude. And as for myself, I love psychedellics. I can understand if others dont want drugs for themselves (I have many Straight Edge friends). They do their thing, I do my thing (so long as i harm no one).
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