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Cale Darksun

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:14 pm


Its fine, but I want you to link back to the original.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:15 pm


The guild has been tempted to go hidden several times due to idea theft before, though against wounded egos, we haven't for several good reasons. With that being said, I cannot force you to take it down as I do not own the rights to it, that being solely cale's domain. However, I have on more than one occasion have found people copying some part of my own works before behind my back, and it's none too fun. Especially that one time someone copied the entire guild layout....


But digressing, there's quite a bit of stuff in there which is partially relevant to our in game RPs, particularly later on in the guide, which you may wish to first review over, as it generally was pertaining to specific needs, rather than an overarching necessity to extrapolate.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:19 pm


Sayla-girl
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Fury? Where is your drop pod setting down at? In the forest or near the mountain?


I should be crash-landing in the forest, somewhere in the middle of a massive clash between Republic and Sith forces.

I didnt think either side had forces enough to engage in massive clashes in the minos cluster.


They're invading planets, so they've got to have at least a big enough army to take and hold one. I'm not thinking an engagement with hundreds of thousands of troops or anything, just one big enough to satisfy the requirements of Dixie's Kom'rk.

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BTW, the forces engaged are just Republic Soldiers with the blast vests and caps/helmets, right? Same with the Imperial soldiers? And with the onset of night, the fighting is dying down? Because that's usually what happens.


Usually, yes. But there can be exceptions to the rule. Plus with thermal imaging technology, there's no reason a battle couldn't continue after nightfall. I was thinking a chaotic battle amongst the trees, with groups of opposing forces scattered about the landscape.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:19 pm


Sky, I don't recall reading anywhere that your guy knows Ataru or Djem So.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:20 pm


Cale Darksun
Its fine, but I want you to link back to the original.


Wilco.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:25 pm


Nelowulf
who is aurin, anyway?


My old username. Fury occasionally refuses to acknowledge the new one.

Cale Darksun
Sky, I don't recall reading anywhere that your guy knows Ataru or Djem So.


Ah, but he does. He is trained in Niman, which is a blending of all the previous styles. He knows enough of each combat form to be able to adapt to his opponent, and enough for his opponent to recognize its source. However, while Niman has no true weaknesses, it also has no true strengths, a fact that will be made apparent in my next post...

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:29 pm


blending of styles does not equate to knowing a style, really. Niman was known as the diplomat's style; in many circles, it barely was little more than a very conservative shii-cho. I like to think of it more of a practical art, than anything which relates to a true "style", merely because that seems to be more prevalent in the way it was described and generally spoken of.

Swing, slash, block, force push, etc. No fancy maneuvers, no particular anything. Just try not to get killed, style, basically.

Let's put this another way: to know ataru, means you can use ataru. to know niman, means to know niman. Jian theoretically might understand concepts of niman, but learning to make it flow? not really. Be cautious on how liberal of an interpretation you take with a consular's knowledge of lightsaber combat, is basically what i'm trying to say.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:30 pm


Skyeborne
Nelowulf
who is aurin, anyway?


My old username. Fury occasionally refuses to acknowledge the new one.

Cale Darksun
Sky, I don't recall reading anywhere that your guy knows Ataru or Djem So.


Ah, but he does. He is trained in Niman, which is a blending of all the previous styles. He knows enough of each combat form to be able to adapt to his opponent, and enough for his opponent to recognize its source. However, while Niman has no true weaknesses, it also has no true strengths, a fact that will be made apparent in my next post...

Niman doesn't work that way, but ok. You're not fighting a real swordsman anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:35 pm


a little outdated, but here's a bit of my old research regarding the niman status. Note the bold:

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Subject No: 5411645
Subject: Lightsaber Form VI: Niman

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With all this talk of lightsabers and famous Jedi and Sith, one may wonder how to counter it. And wonder what difference it does make about attack a Jedi. There is actually a good reason for picking your battles with a Jedi, because it can mean life or death. In this 8 part series, we shall pick the 7 official forms, and all their offshoots and unofficial techniques, apart.

Our sixth segment is on the style of Niman.

Niman, or the Way of the Rancor, is probably one of the most prevalent forms used by the Jedi during the Clone wars. Niman is different than most styles, as its design focuses more on a general understanding rather than a specific trait.

The result is Niman, a form that has no combat goals to accomplish. Known as the "Diplomatic Form", its popularity grew as the role of Jedi changed from warrior to diplomat. Combining all the elements from each of the five previous forms, the result was a bastardization of the styles into a moderately good style, whos practice could be mastered while having time left over for practicing politcs and other galactic public issues.

While this form seems to cover all bases, it tends to be geared for people who are willing to be prepared for any situation, and those whom are insecure in choosing a definite style's advantages and disadvantages.

The positive sides of Niman is that anyone who takes the skill is prepared to battle anything, and manage to be really flexible on the situation. We can point to several practicioners of this style. Oddly, Grevious is not to be put on this list, as his form, though quite adaptave as Niman, was completely unorthodox and original.

The negative side of Niman is that even the greatest masters of the form are only moderately good at what they do. While one could argue that Niman is the best form for a swordsman, one should also remember who picks this form. Niman was a compromise for time and skill. While a swordsman might overcome all other styles using Niman, there is a good chance that that same swordsman isn't picking Niman for its versatility. Usually jedi who did not wish to rely on their sword would pick Form VI, while the better swordsman went to more specific styles.

The limitations of Niman are present at the Battle of Geonosis. Coleman Trebor, a master of Niman, was easily gunned down by a few blastershots by Jango Fett. It is also important to note that not a single jedi who used Form VI left that arena alive...

Summary:
-Flexible style
-Overall, pretty weak, even in its mastered state.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm


Darth Fury


Usually, yes. But there can be exceptions to the rule. Plus with thermal imaging technology, there's no reason a battle couldn't continue after nightfall. I was thinking a chaotic battle amongst the trees, with groups of opposing forces scattered about the landscape.

Not everyone has that tech, especially the grunts used in these fringe world battles. Just pointing that out.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 pm


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Usually, yes. But there can be exceptions to the rule. Plus with thermal imaging technology, there's no reason a battle couldn't continue after nightfall. I was thinking a chaotic battle amongst the trees, with groups of opposing forces scattered about the landscape.

Not everyone has that tech, especially the grunts used in these fringe world battles. Just pointing that out.


"Well, maybe... But why get caught up in the details?"
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:56 pm


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Usually, yes. But there can be exceptions to the rule. Plus with thermal imaging technology, there's no reason a battle couldn't continue after nightfall. I was thinking a chaotic battle amongst the trees, with groups of opposing forces scattered about the landscape.

Not everyone has that tech, especially the grunts used in these fringe world battles. Just pointing that out.


"Well, maybe... But why get caught up in the details?"

Oh, I don't want to rain on your parade. I just think the vast majority of guys you'll be fighting will be equipped like this:
http://thetruesithguild.webs.com/Concept Art/ca3_800x515.jpg
Same with the Sith, save that they'll be dressed in grey and black with those ATST driver helmets.

This just means that you can use the darkness to your advantage stealthwise.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:58 pm


This is a rather unimportant planet, the Sith probably only have a basic infantry and some armour, maybe a regiment or two at best. The defenders probably consist of PDF with a few Republic Officers and maybe a company of real RTs. At that, the Sith may have taken heavy losses in the beginning depending on supply of helmets with re-breathers.

Im kind of curious though about who dropped you off, Fury. A pod doesn't just fall out of the sky.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:01 pm


probably getting a bit overboard with our analysis too. been a while since we got excited over this stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:01 pm


Des Voh
This is a rather unimportant planet, the Sith probably only have a basic infantry and some armour, maybe a regiment or two at best. The defenders probably consist of PDF with a few Republic Officers and maybe a company of real RTs. At that, the Sith may have taken heavy losses in the beginning depending on supply of helmets with re-breathers.

Im kind of curious though about who dropped you off, Fury. A pod doesn't just fall out of the sky.

The Mandalorians of course. They didn't stick around. Just shot the pod at the planet and left. Its kind of like the Mandie method of marooning.
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