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Well guns are pretty awesome.


It's literally a harnessed explosion and directed shrapnel. Explosions are one of the most OP things in the universe, give or take.

Character power is a gradient, you can move up to where the pistols are effective without being overly so.

In the setting of the GTB, it's pretty much going to be a game ender without a feasible way of getting around it other than going "I'm Neo" or "I eat this s**t like champ." Again, projectile traveling hundreds of miles per hour capable of removing a limb > any melee weapon and probably most powers. You don't need more than one shot because if you let someone get in your face and pull the trigger, they're pretty well ********. And that's going to be the most common strategy around because it's effective as ******** also never assume the honor system is in play. You have to be objective and consider the capacity for abuse. Yes, everything can be abused, but to what degree? How easy is it to abuse? So on.

Like I said, if you tweaked the power level, it'd be fine. But at the current level.. past experience suggests that a gun, even a primitive one, would be capable of doing more damage, more effectively, than any melee weapon or individual powerset.

Purely from the perspective of ending fights, if someone offered to let me in with a character who was just equipped with a dueling pistol, or any of my characters with their powersets, I'd go with the pistol. It's way more capable of wrecking s**t in a way more efficient manner because you just have to turtle til the right moment then bam. Musketball to the gut. Enjoy missing a chunk of your spine.

Who even dies to guns.

Someone would shoot KB in the stomach and he'd be like, "lol"

KB's A VAMPUR though.

But yeah, even a basic gun would be legit as ********. I mean, think about it: most characters are melee centric.

Introduce a musketball weapon - which causes horrific ******** damage - to the equation and it gets imbalanced pretty quick.

Pussies then.



Guns can ruin a lot of days. I think there's enough undead/robots/werewolves whatevers to even it out in most cases though. Darth is more or less right about it being a matter of power levels. Power levels are only one half of it though.

The other half is ability restrictions. Guns are a lot scarier when you can't heal yourself, teleport, or any of that kind of stuff that counters guns.

It actually references Street Fighter and King of Fighters, but it's entirely irrelevant because Vintrict changes his idea of what that phrase means from year to year so it's not entirely accurate. The phrase has been there from the II or III GTB, but every year the actual scale of allowable power has shifted, and the phrase never changes.

At the power level of the tournament - as far as profile grading has shown - a gun would be too powerful because people aren't allowed sufficient toughness to just eat a gunshot or have it bounce off their chest like Superman. They're allowed to be tougher than humans, but not to that degree.

You COULD bump up the power level and say that guns are fine.. but that has nothing to do with treating a gun "differently", it has to do with allowing characters to be powerful enough to sufficiently deal with the weapons. The power of the weapon really remains static, it's the scale of character power that moves up or down.

Can you come up with a way to really do that? I mean, since most people aren't serious about gaming anyway they're usually not aware of how complex the mechanics of those games really are. Trying to apply them to free form in the same way is well...

Pretty much impossible.

It'd be infinitely times easier to just scale up power level.

Then you become Ortei.


Then you have to kill yourself for the good of the world.