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What kind of format should games be done in?
  Games that are played slowly and casually over longer periods of time
  Scheduled games, perhaps done in phases, where all players come online together for an hour or so and take turns together
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:13 pm


kowsauni

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I'm considering both your trade offers.

One I wouldn't be able to use until a long while from now, and the other I'd have to spend money on a meal or hope to find a tonic to even have a chance of making use of it.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:41 pm


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I'm willing to toss in an Arms Scroll. They're not really useful to me.

RosesxScythes


You're really attached to the idea of using that Imbue Scroll? It's expensive as hell for you to use, and better off in a higher-magic ally's hands so a healer can put more focus on Shinon instead. It just doesn't make much sense from a tactical standpoint.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:02 pm


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Expensive? A little. But It's not like I plan to go into every next boardgame with the skill equipped. As I said, situational usage. Maybe it would benefit some of the others better at this time. But I'm not planning for the 'right now', I'm planning for what I want to accomplish with Shinon's build later on. I may never get another chance or earn another scroll with my horribad luck usually so I want to take advantage of what I did manage to get this time around.

Am I not allowed to enjoy feeling happy for what I won and want to use it? The fact I've won what I did in the RNG game still shocks the hell out of me and honestly, considering I rarely win anything IRL or online, I just want to keep a-hold of said things and use them myself. Sure, others have shinies we could trade, but it's that sense of 'i won this myself' that's strong with me.

So... I guess call me selfish, or whatever? But it's a big thing for me. >w<
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:41 pm


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Expensive? A little. But It's not like I plan to go into every next boardgame with the skill equipped. As I said, situational usage. Maybe it would benefit some of the others better at this time. But I'm not planning for the 'right now', I'm planning for what I want to accomplish with Shinon's build later on. I may never get another chance or earn another scroll with my horribad luck usually so I want to take advantage of what I did manage to get this time around.

Am I not allowed to enjoy feeling happy for what I won and want to use it? The fact I've won what I did in the RNG game still shocks the hell out of me and honestly, considering I rarely win anything IRL or online, I just want to keep a-hold of said things and use them myself. Sure, others have shinies we could trade, but it's that sense of 'i won this myself' that's strong with me.

So... I guess call me selfish, or whatever? But it's a big thing for me. >w<


I'm siding with Tibs on this. Now. I'm not going to tell you what to do your imbue scroll since you won it fair and square and it is your right to keep it. The only reason Rath and Tibs are asking to trade or let someone else have it because it'll be really beneficial for Boardgame in terms of strategic thinking... I mean it's already been said. What you're doing here doesn't make any sense. And the way you're acting all defensive about the imbue scroll is not just incredibly selfish but it's immature too. Let's get down to the facts here.

These are Shinon's bases:

HP 20
STR 10
MAG 0
SPD: 5
LUK: 3
DEF 10
RES 2

And here are his Growths:

HP: 65%
STR: 45%
MAG: 0%
SPD: 40%
LUK: 25%
DEF: 35%
RES: 30%

He has 0 percent in magic. 0 FREAKING percent and you didn't at least put 1 single bonus point into his magic growths so chances are Shinon won't be getting a single stat in magic.I mean that is understandable because you should be focused on his other important stats such as HP, Strength, Skill, Speed, Defense. The only way Shinon is ever going to get any magic at all is if by some chance you'll get acquire some Spirit Dust. It's hard to know in Boardgame when or where you'll obtain any.

Maybe you'll get lucky to find one in Boardgame or Leena's shop in the Eyris Shopping District might have a special deal on it? But chances they'll have it frequently is extremely slim. And personally I really think you're going out of your way just to get all of that magic for a skill that Shinon doesn't even need. Objectively speaking, Shinon is not a magic user he's a freaking bow user. Let's say that if you're lucky enough to obtain a Spirit dust, from what I understand Imbue restores a unit's HP by half their magic stat every turn.

There's better skills out there that can do the job just as efficiently like Boon or I don't know how about maybe even Renewal? They are decent skills that don't require you to be a magic user in order to use them. Again, they're probably not that easy to obtain either. But do you really want to spend all of that time looking for/wasting all of those Spirit Dusts just to increase Shinon's magic stats? Objectively speaking it's a poor investment. I'd rather have the arms scroll if it was up to me. But again this is all personally what I think. If you still want to use the imbue scroll go on ahead. At this point I couldn't really care less.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:16 pm


Hey now, it's not a big deal.. My trade offer was denied and I accepted it. I don't think it needs to be spelled out that certain skills would be more strategically effective on other characters, or that certain skill builds don't coincide well with chosen stat builds and reclass options. There's nothing wrong with trying to reasonably persuade somebody to trade, but I don't think the issue should be pushed so far, especially from people who aren't making the actual trade offer.

Let's enjoy what we do have and the prospect of continually getting stronger.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:40 pm


That said, for bookkeeping:

- Celerity Scroll, Speedwing, Spirit Dust, 500g x2, 5000g, 1000g, Arms Scroll, Brave Lance, Leena's Card, Waste, Angelic Robe

Once Tibarn is out of Game 5...

- Ganon will use the Celerity Scroll. Tibarn will use the Speedwing. Ganon may also use the Angelic Robe but it's not definite.
- 7000g goes between the two of them based on who has what kind of money after the mission.

Currently:

- Spirit Dust for Ninja_Maiden. Happy Christmas.
- Leena's Card for Abel Fallon, so he can get Some Good s**t. Just pass it around so people who need it can use it, please! Since it's only useful in actual maps, people should keep an eye out for secret shops. If rings for changing the effects of Ganon's songs are available and Ganon's not in the game, he will totally pay you back if you buy them for him.
- Brave Lance and Arms Scroll currently on hold for Wyvern Lord Vaida as a trade offer for the Beaststone+.
- Waste and possibly Angelic Robe open for sale/trade.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:15 pm


kowsauni

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The skill's a nice offer, and if my stats were geared differently I would definitely do it, but I've got s**t all in my luck growths and I just wouldn't be able to use it well even with the +2 luck meal. Sorry. You should give it to Lilith, seems like she'd get good use from it.

Tibarn,I'm taking you up on the brave lance and arms scroll.


Also, I'm just gunna note here that I'm claiming the silver lance and shockstick from the guild office storage. I picked one of those up in game 4 and had to send it to Leena and I can't remember which and they've been sitting there all this time so I'm assuming nobody cares if I get them, okay cool.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:49 pm


Finally have a moment to type this since family's been here and have had limited time online cuz of it.

In response to everyone poking at me about my scroll and whatever, I would like to say you'll be glad to know...

I'm trading my scroll.

Since Vaida just rejected Kowsauni's offer, I've opted to trade them for their Future Sight scroll.

Since I have a goddess icon that raises my luck up a tad and would be a bit more effective. So I'll be going back to my other post and editing that in instead of the Imbue scroll. =D


kowsauni


[Just putting this here for clarification/notification and confirm and all that. =D]

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:25 pm


Wyvern Lord Vaida


Consider it done, then! Thanks.

Also can dragons use Imbue? Since their ranged attack is magic. Not saying it's a bad idea, but it's something important to check with Rath before you make that trade.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:32 pm


Can always use it on Lilith even if Kit can't use it in that case. Either way.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:39 am


Rath you're right. Boardgame is all about having fun and I shouldn't have made a huge deal about a trading matter that didn't even involve me in the first place.

Listen Shinon, you're allowed to use your items however you want to. You didn't have to force yourself to trade because of what I or even what Tibs said. We were trying to make sense of what you were trying to do. And yeah it was immature of me to make this TD;LR post going into detail about stats and skills which was unnecessary and I do apologize for that.

I meant to offer some suggestions,and maybe it would've been nice of you to trade with someone else who needed imbue? It's not really helpful to anyone if I'm being a jerk about it heck that sucks away the fun you should be having. But I assume you're okay with Vaida's offer so that worked out in the end I guess.. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:22 am


I'm not gonna get in a huff over it all, especially about online crud. I honestly didn't give a flying ******** about your and Tibarn's spiel over it, Rhys, and I'd gotten the offer from Kowsauni before all that in PM at the same time as Rath's offer, but then they offered to Vaida and so I declined Rath's and I'd decided I'd use Imbue myself. Kowsauni PM'd me again about the offer and so I told Kowsauni that if Vaida said no to their offer I'd trade Imbue for the Future Sight scroll, thus agreeing to the original offer, so... Honestly? I don't really care what you pointed out and all, Rhys.

I play boardgame to have fun and I want to play it ways that make it fun for me. Having Imbue on my character, even with no magic, if I used a magic tonic and a meal to boost his mag to +3, that's a 3 point thing, and while, maybe doesn't seem like a lot, it can make all the dang difference in being out of the game or not and self-sustainability and survival is a good thing, especially since we usually get one healer per game and limited inventory space so capitalizing on taking a good healing item and having any other backup skill or anything else is good.

Plus since I do plan to actively swap back and forth between Wyvern Rider and Archer, when I am in Wyvern rider class, that gives me a huge movement range, which can possible take me out of heal range. I was thinking in terms of survivability when away from healers with Imbue. Excuse me if it made me look like a selfish moron, but I don't really care.

Look, I am all for trying to be group-y and teamwork and all in the games, but individual thought to the turns and actions and set-up outside of it is also a thing as well and I'd really like it if you guys didn't judge or get on my case for going with things the way I feel I should.

I'd also like to point out my character himself is not that much of a team-player and since I am trying to play him somewhat IC-ly though I do acknowledge that boardgame isn't particularly 'canon' and all, I still want to keep him somewhat true to how he is.

So anyway, trading for Future Sight with Kowsauni also gives me a good opportunity/window to use with it, because with the boost from the Goddess Icon and that skill, given that I am able to defeat my opponents, I'll gain the double exp. Which is really helpful for trying to gain more levels to have better survivability.

In the end, what it all comes down to is helping my character's survival rate and customizing things to my personal style. Isn't that what we all do with our characters in games anyway?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:44 am


Hmm, at least in Awakening a manakete's attack uses strength and hits defense at either range. I've never heard of their range attack dealing magic damage before. (If this is the case I would like to know because I would utilize that in the Arena.)

That aside, I do not understand how a Manakete could be considered a magic class. It is a strength based class. That would like saying a fighter is a magic class because he has a bolt axe equipped. But I'll see what Rath has to say.

Regardless, I made the trade offer and it was accepted. It would be unfair to RosesxScythe to try and go back on it unless she wanted to as well, so if I cant use the Imbue scroll on Kit as intended I'll just have to hold onto it.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:05 am


Well, if it is the case and Kit can't use it, I don't mind you backing out on the trade. As said, I can still make use of Imbue, and potentially as I pointed out you could use it on Lilith and do what I planned and use meals and tonics, it would give Lilith some self-sustainability since she is mounted and can move beyond heal range. -shrug-

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:24 pm


gabriel sama


I see you're leveling Rou in the Arena. Need to level up Rajin. >.>; I'm just curious if you've forgot to add weapon triangle bonus when you're facing Axe units. Or did the weapon triangle taken out of the arena?
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