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RubyAshes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:44 pm


heart Thanks guys.

Also, Arc can you outline something on the alliance forum about what should be reported to a quadrant leader? Legions and Yeti want to team up with Lord Kagato to basically run vincent, Nakormah and Tahlivan into the ground for quitting the alliance. At what point should Manicxellos be made aware of this?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:27 pm


Congrats, Ruby. wink

Alexi Terianis


Arcadian

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:19 am


RubyAshes
heart Thanks guys.

Also, Arc can you outline something on the alliance forum about what should be reported to a quadrant leader? Legions and Yeti want to team up with Lord Kagato to basically run vincent, Nakormah and Tahlivan into the ground for quitting the alliance. At what point should Manicxellos be made aware of this?


Manic should be notified immediately, just so he knows.

And there's no way I'm gonna type up a logic tree for common sense.

How about, "If you're going to do action 'x', and you'd want to know if your charges were going to do action 'x,' then tell your superior officers."
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:25 am


Arcadian
Manic should be notified immediately, just so he knows.

And there's no way I'm gonna type up a logic tree for common sense.

How about, "If you're going to do action 'x', and you'd want to know if your charges were going to do action 'x,' then tell your superior officers."
If it were common sense, I wouldn't have to push it so hard. And if Yeti and Legions are having trouble with the concept, I imagine some others might as well. I told them, and asked them to post something on the forums.

Ter - heart heart heart

RubyAshes


Alexi Terianis

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:15 am


What do we all want in a superior officer?

We're putting up commanders and subcommanders, but what are we looking for when we do that? I know what Arc's answer is on this, at least partially, because I've spoken with him about it, but I was wondering what the rest of us thought. This, here, in this thread, is really the core of HME, isn't it? So what are we really looking for?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:51 am


Alexi Terianis
What do we all want in a superior officer?

We're putting up commanders and subcommanders, but what are we looking for when we do that? I know what Arc's answer is on this, at least partially, because I've spoken with him about it, but I was wondering what the rest of us thought. This, here, in this thread, is really the core of HME, isn't it? So what are we really looking for?

My thoughts:

1. To act as the go-between for Arcadian and the rest of the alliance/members in their sector. This means explaining the rules, methods, and changes the alliance makes to players within the sector, so all people can feel comfortable and on the same page as to what is going on, without Arc having constantly to explain.

2. To interpret and enforce our guidelines on a local scale.

3. To provide council to Arcadian as to dealing with issues, and bringing potential issues to his attention. This also would mean receiving feedback from members within their sectors on alliance issues.

4. To maintain inter-alliance relations in their sector.

I am not sure at what level/ role the sub-commanders should be involved. Perhaps a commander could say what would be most helpful to them? It might be best if this role was flexible from sector to sector to suit the commader's/sector's needs. I also know I did not include any reference to military actions, as I'm unsure what would be most efficient and reasonable.

Silkara


Balcerzak

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:57 am


Alexi Terianis
What do we all want in a superior officer?

We're putting up commanders and subcommanders, but what are we looking for when we do that? I know what Arc's answer is on this, at least partially, because I've spoken with him about it, but I was wondering what the rest of us thought. This, here, in this thread, is really the core of HME, isn't it? So what are we really looking for?

Militarily, commanders are an intermediate step with authority to make decisions. If subordinates come to them wanting to make either a pre-emptive or retributive strike, they will look at the big picture and weigh the potential repercussions for their region. If they decide the measure is acceptable they will authorize and aid in its execution. If they are unsure, they will confer with Arcadian. Additionally they will evaluate the potential for new recruits in their region when such matters are brought to their attention, and manage diplomatic affairs that are local in scope.

Furthermore, commanders will coordinate with Arcadian on setting, adjusting, or re-evaluating key alliance policies: such as the recent discussion on how to deal with inactive players, and a likely forthcoming discussion on evaluating our pacts and alliances, whether we are still happy with relations with some, whether we want to actively make ourselves more marketable to partnerships with the higher-ranked alliances [TF4, Drunks, Ring] who have been dropping or demoting our official relations, setting desired requirements for incoming members, and other similar items which don't come to mind immediately.

Regarding the current "dispute" with the Chosen Few, that some members are trying to get started, I view it as somewhat counterproductive. There may come a time when we start filling up as an alliance, and may want to create "Wing" alliances, and if there is already some real-life or other online camaraderie between many of our members in that region and the Chosen Few, I think it would be unwise to let it degenerate into bitterness, when they might be a useful candidate for such a thing in the future. These are, of course, just some of my random thoughts on the matter, without any real investigation on my part. Manic would know better, and it is his bailiwick.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:35 pm


I love you guys. heart

Arcadian


RubyAshes

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:47 pm


Sounds good. 3nodding
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:33 pm


Come on, there must be more opinions than that. What do you expect from them? What should they expect from you?

What do you expect from Arc, or the subcommanders? We're trying to work out kinks in the system, what better time than now to spit out your opinions?

Alexi Terianis


Elliedoll

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:10 pm


I think Silkara and Balcerzac covered my sentiments. Communication is the key to -everything-... I'm painfully aware that Arc can't individually tell everyone everything, but the fact remains that we -must- know enough to respond properly to a situation. Having the QC's means Arc needs to PM/IGM -four- people, not forty. Commo between QC's and subQCs is also critical in the dissemination of information.

I know we can make this work. I'm sure of it.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:15 pm


Alexi Terianis
Come on, there must be more opinions than that. What do you expect from them? What should they expect from you?

What do you expect from Arc, or the subcommanders? We're trying to work out kinks in the system, what better time than now to spit out your opinions?
I can't really think of anything extra at this point in time.

Arcadian


Alexi Terianis

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:50 pm


Elliedoll
I think Silkara and Balcerzac covered my sentiments. Communication is the key to -everything-... I'm painfully aware that Arc can't individually tell everyone everything, but the fact remains that we -must- know enough to respond properly to a situation. Having the QC's means Arc needs to PM/IGM -four- people, not forty. Commo between QC's and subQCs is also critical in the dissemination of information.

I know we can make this work. I'm sure of it.
More likely, we need Arc to have someone to help him out. Get him a second that he can tell when things happen, so that we can make this quicker. A lot goes on for him that none of us see, that's fine. Give him someone to take care of most of that for him, something like a secretary, someone who can be there if he's not. It seems the best idea, and will take a large load off his shoulders.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:33 pm


Alexi Terianis
Elliedoll
I think Silkara and Balcerzac covered my sentiments. Communication is the key to -everything-... I'm painfully aware that Arc can't individually tell everyone everything, but the fact remains that we -must- know enough to respond properly to a situation. Having the QC's means Arc needs to PM/IGM -four- people, not forty. Commo between QC's and subQCs is also critical in the dissemination of information.

I know we can make this work. I'm sure of it.
More likely, we need Arc to have someone to help him out. Get him a second that he can tell when things happen, so that we can make this quicker. A lot goes on for him that none of us see, that's fine. Give him someone to take care of most of that for him, something like a secretary, someone who can be there if he's not. It seems the best idea, and will take a large load off his shoulders.
Hrm. Good point. I like it. Arc? Input?

Elliedoll


Balcerzak

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:53 am


Quote:
Sir,

It is most refreshing to encounter a player that practices honesty. All contact that i have had with your alliance has been both positive and a pleasure. The clay oasis will be helpful in the future, as i must level my Heroes Mansion. I did not want to put in the resources if you palnned to conquer it. I do appreciate it the help in softening up the oasis. It may be about a week barring any unforseen problems. Again thank you for the communication and i look forward to the goodwill we will share from both our alliances. This will not be forgotten.

henry75
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Balcerzak wrote:

Hail,

Allow me to be perfectly honest, for a moment if you will. When I had initially settled Dunharrow, some months past, I had hoped to get my hands on the wheat oasis that you have since beat me to (quite fairly, I might add and by a long margin). I have since put little thought into acquiring further oases there, as Dunharrow is a 15(g) city, and any oasis would only boost a single production field. While I _could_ take it, it would benefit me little compared to the profit one such as yourself could make from it. Therefore in the interest of goodwill between our two alliances I will certainly not protest your annexation of (60|-143). I may actually soften it up some for you, as it would be good experience for my hero. All I ask is that you remember this favorably.

Balcerzak
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henry75 wrote:

Good Afternoon,

I was curious if you plan to take the clay oasis that is below your village. If not i was curious if you would mind if i started raiding it.

Regards,

henry75


Recent communications I've had with a member of Phoenix. Thought I'd share it with you. Read from the bottom up, in typical Travian IGM fashion. I must admit I had been tempted to ask to do an oasis swap, but figured that would come off boorish and rude, so instead opted for a token of goodwill. It _never_ hurts to have friends.
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