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Ah, thanks for making this.
It actually cleared things up that I had in mind for a long time.

It was so long ago since I played the beginning of the game so I only had bits and peaces of the story left in my memory, but this clears it all up.

Thanks once again.

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Nice info, in fact it can support alot of p.o.v.'s.

From whats given in your support, we can plainly see that Jenova's ablities and what it has done in the past, although Jenova has been fatally wounded it cannot move on its own and as for any power it has left to do any illusions or mind controll we dont have suffience evidence to prove this.

But we do know that Sehpiroth knows who his father is, Hojo, as such when he laughs about him after Cloud asking about his parents in the van to Niblehiem. Also that Sephiroth is very fond of Gast, its apparant he looks at Gast as a father figure and again Sephiroth demotes Hojo when at the mako fountain. Seeing how he refers to Gast as a great man with other such praise.

Anyway at the Shinra Mansion Sehpiroth does find the books of all and probably every expierment, thus all the works of Hojo and Gast. Which leaves Sephiroth with the truth. That he is ineed an expeirment just like those in the pods of the mako reactor, he even begins to suspect that he might be a creation rather than human before finding out anything becuse of his power/strength and starts to stike the pods.

We can suspect that the reason for Sephiroths actions was going mad, he'd lost everything he belived to be true, for one he wasnt human and alwasys felt alone, and two finding out Gast's death, which are the only things he really had and with that lost he had now lost everything, went mad and rejustified himself as a superior race that had the power to do so in fact the only thing that left a tie to him in this world was his alien mother jenova and with that said you have to protect and continue your blood line right, so he choose jenovas path. To see his mother.

And if the expeirment truly worked, since he jenovas dna is a part of him that he too would have the abilty to create illusions, have some telepathy, and mind controll.

But as he wanted to be re-united with Jenova, Cloud came in and stopped any plans Sephiroth had by tossing him into the mako pool at the bottom of the reactor thus encasing him in a mako shell, most likely fell into the life stream and ended up at the great crator where all life stream was going to fix the planents wound.

And there like every villian he had time to plot his revenge, every point, no matter what he had to make his adversy suffer. Till Cloud came around Sephiroth was the number 1 top notch Solider able to kill anything or anyone with one strike, then a simple human, low class infantry soldier tosses him like nothing.

From there on out it was Sephiroths revenge, a plot to become a god and set the reuinoun of Cloud and Sephiroths meeting for a rematch.

With that said being half human his powers wouldnt be stong as Jenovas, so he need to lacky someone to his work for him, even with illusions of himself he really coudlnt fight, but could use his sword. And if you needed a body to achive the black materia he had none. So he needed someone to do it, and who better than the person who defeated you. He knew of one else so it worked in his plan. And in being there in Nebleim he could re stage Clouds and Tifa's memory with his illusioins envoking them to come after him, he knew the memory word for word and that was the perfect fuel to get Cloud after him.

And to avoid any fights, so they wouldnt find out that he was just an illusion he had jenovas witherd away body parts fight for him, after all a mother would protect her child and intrests right? When you think about it Cloud had already beat him once and Cloud could probably do it agian, but if Sephiroth had the power of a god with the black materia he could surely make Cloud Strife suffer and pay.

Even in death Sephiroth tries to take Clouds soul with him, sucking him in that worm hole for a final bout only to lose again to Cloud.

So its clear from my understandting that Sephiroth was indeed in controll the whole time.

Aeith knew somthing was up with Cloud, that he wasnt acting like himself, she even states you act just like him, refering to Zack. She also states she wants to meet the real him, which is confusing at first but you find out what she means after Clouds pulls his act together in the lifesteam.

I suppose Sephiroth mind influence and Clouds weak confindence, Sephiroth was able to cover Clouds persona with Zacks so that Cloud would be more motivated to do somthing, after all Cloud was natrually silent and shy so if acted somewhat like Zack then for sure Cloud would chase after Sephiroth am I right?

Cloud became himself and broke Sephiroths controll after Tifa put Cloud back on track in the lifesteam.

And as for the reuinion its symbolic really to the past, Jenova came down after somthing hit the earth and began its illusions and stealing the planetents life force, and now Sephiorth is making illusioins and summoning a meteor to absorb more of the planents life force at the same crater or knowspole if you will. And the Anceints, well humans are dececdants of Aceints who didnt want to leave and eventually lost all ablities to talk to the planent and such. Anyway decendants none the less have to protect the planent once again. Wow history really does repeat itself hmm?

Well its your opinonion people belive what you want, I find what belive to be evident and makes alot of sense, ive played this game at least 20 times and I think I'm right that I am sure of.

dude read my theory it might help.

Sephiroth wants the planets life energy, A.K.A Life Stream to surge to him so he can acheive a God-like status via absorbing it. He summons Meteor to cause a gaping wound to the planet, like what we theorise JENOVA did when it initially collided with the planet. He would station himself there, absorbing the life stream as if flowed to the wound to heal the planet, and absorb it, acheiving the God-like status.

So yes, Sephiroth did want the life energy of the planet, but not for the sake of wanting it, for the sake of ascending to a God.

Sephiroth was never a good guy in the sense we'd take it, he was cold and calculating, and effecient in what he did. If we were to say he was a good guy, we'd be saying that he wanted nothing more than to find that fellow that was lost when the bridge collapsed in Clouds/Zacks past. But, he didn't, he valued his mission over the life of that one soldier and forced the party onwards, somehow I doubt this is what he good guy would do. Even though he does state something along the lines of wanting to search for that soldier, he doesn't seem to be very remorsed by not being choosing not to do so. Though I will give Sephiroth props he deserves for making the move he did, because he made the move to saving citizens of Nibleheim by choosing to stop the reactor rather than try and save the life of one man. He was a cold, calculating, natural born leader more than the good guy. Well, not the sort of good guy that we as a modern society think of today when we think what a good guy is.

Gash: I can't write an answer to your whole post because I'm short on time, though I don't think Sephiroth looked to Gast as a fatherly figure as much as he adored, or admired his scientific genius and talent. In comparison to Gast, Sephiroth states many times that Hojo was compeltely inferior to Gast when it came to the science department, but we never get any more than that. We don't actually get any more feelings or vibes from Sephiroth other than compliments to Gasts work and detrimental opinions to Hojo's. I don't think there's enough there for us to come to the assumption that Sephiroth looked to Gast as a father figure and to Hojo as a second rate one.

I LIKE PIE!

Who cares who hes father is? That wasn't the point of that esay up there.Nothing that you just said has anything to do with what was explained up there.